After the less than stellar first contact they probably wouldnt want much to do with this nacent alliance forming on Earth.
What exactly is allowed in the Federation and what exactly disqualifies membership?
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That's possible too. Once the Federation really started to gain momentum, the Vissians would likely be interested. However, by that time, they might have imposed some restrictions.
I would be surprised if Vissians had not joined the Federation by the 24th century, though. Cogenitors would still live different lives than others, simply because they needed to travel from couple to couple to aid in conception. But they could still be acknowledged as legally equal.
150-200 years or so is certainly enough time for social reform and to gice Cogenitors the option to decline being assigned to a couple instead of being essentially sex slaves.
They would still need to move from couple to couple, because they were essential for reproduction (unless their contribution could be artificially replicated, which would probably be a relief for all three sexes). But that doesn't mean they can't have names, learn to read, have ice cream when everyone else gets it, and take the occasional time off to climb a mountain.
Arguably in a bigendered species both parties are essential for reproduction, but they are allowed to choose not to.
In the event of a disparity between genders or in a reduced population should consent be taken away in the name of species continuation?
Gene therapy so they can reproduce with just males and females would be preferable but would take a long time for their culture to adapt to. As would the very concept of treating Cogenitors as people.
It seems a very inefficient evolutionary trait to be unable to reproduce without the assistance of a gender that makes up only 3% of the population and do parents just abandon their children to some farm if they're born Cogenitor?
They would have to. Otherwise, cogenitor rights would certainly have become a thing years ago.
one of the novels deals with Vulcan having a planetwide vote to decide whether or not to withdraw from the Federation, many of it's people (or the leadership, at any rate) being concerned that they have had too much influence on the affairs of the UFP as a whole and individual member worlds, essentially violating the Prime Directive with their own allies.
interesting thought. also gave a look at more... salt of the earth types in Vulcan society. still followers of Surak, but less... rigid and stereotypically vulcan.
I think I read it... it also explored Vulcan in its pre-Surak days, when they were far more barbaric.
Probably taken off them by the state, there are probably cases of parents hiding their children unless its ingrained into them like oh well we waited for a Cogenitor for ages to have a child but never mind or perhaps theyre compensated for it, like maybe it's an honour to have one and further the survival of the race.
I imagine the Federation would take in a Vissian Cogenitor seeking asylum from the conditions on their world.
Universal sapient and sentient species rights not human rights
Correct. On our world, it would include humpback whales, and any other non-human intelligent species we might have.
If only you could hear yourselves? 'Human rights.' Why the very name is racist.
@Nyotarules beat you to it. Moving on.
Sophont.
A person. A being that has the quality of sophonce. Such beings are sometimes called 'sapients'. For historical reasons, sophont-grade ais, may be called 'turingrade ais', even though because of philosophical and practical difficulties with the Turing Test the term 'sophont ai' would be clearer.
A sophont is a being with the ability for self-reflection and intelligent thought. They are also known as sapients. Sophonts can be biological, cyborg, vec, ai, or xeno, or any combination.
First used in the 1966 works by Poul Anderson, coined by his wife Karen Anderson.
This could be a moving target. For instance, Soong androids and evolving holograms (which are essentially computer programs) didn't exist until the 24th century. And don't forget your assorted transporter oopsies like Tuvix or Tom Riker. But they might claim sophont rights as well.
Sophont isn't a officially recognized word that I can find in any official dictionary.
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