What do you want to see in the first Discovery Trailer?

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

It just seems to go against your beliefs. Mankind has abandoned religion and bigotry, ushering in a true golden age where Earth is an one world government with close ties to a bigger government of other worlds. It just seems odd that Evangelical Christians would like that, it seems like everything they're against. Most don't even seem to not like any fiction that doesn't bend over backwards to pander to their views.

Because we understand that since Christianity's birth, Christians have had to exist (and hide) within many kingdoms/lands with belief systems that are opposed to ours - this is just one more. And we appreciate the allegory and metaphor that point to our own failings and cause us to question what we've been doing. And occasionally, we're vindicated in our beliefs about an issue.

I enjoy reading many different genres of Christian fiction, including ones that feature dystopian societies, such as in David Gregory's The Last Christian or Krista McGee's Anomaly trilogy or James Dobson's Fatherless trilogy.

And I also enjoy a good Trek adventure.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Because we understand that since Christianity's birth, Christians have had to exist (and hide) within many kingdoms/lands with belief systems that are opposed to ours - this is just one more. And we appreciate the allegory and metaphor that point to our own failings and cause us to question what we've been doing. And occasionally, we're vindicated in our beliefs about an issue.

I take issue with that because not only are Christians not being opposed in the society of the vast majority of the posters here and especially in the society where Star Trek is opposed. In a lot of ways, they are the ones causing oppression on individuals which is sometimes protected by laws. This is harming people, but any criticism of this is seen as oppression by Christians. So forgive me if I really can't stand the idea that Christians are being oppressed. In the US, 80% of the population is Christian, their holidays are given special status and their beliefs are held with more value than others. Sometimes over the rights of fellow Americans whose only crime is not fitting into their worldview. Yes, in some places where they are actually killed for their beliefs. But that's a severe violation of human rights, not really a religious thing.

I enjoy reading many different genres of Christian fiction, including ones that feature dystopian societies, such as in David Gregory's The Last Christian or Krista McGee's Anomaly trilogy or James Dobson's Fatherless trilogy.

I've found most Christian fiction to be uninspired and generally written to reinforce the beliefs of the reader, not challenge them or depict new or interesting scenarios or worlds.

And I also enjoy a good Trek adventure.

Agreed. They're pretty entertaining.

 

[Long Syntax]

Signs of excellent storytelling is what I'd want to see. Compel me to watch, to want to subscribe to the online service and to feel that it was money well spent.

 

[mos6507]

Even more blatant. http://www.airshipgenesis.com/

James Horner should sue from the grave over that music.

 

[Tenacity]

So forgive me if I really can't stand the idea that Christians are being oppressed.

Christianity is currently the most oppressed religion in the world. Africa, and the middle east are the worst, but other places around the world too like China and Indonesia.

Murders, bombings, beatings, harassment by government officials. Christian communities in some countries are are being driven out from places they've existed for centuries

 

[Awesome Possum]

Christianity is currently the most oppressed religion in the world. Africa, and the middle east are the worst, but other places around the world too like China and Indonesia.

Murders, bombings, beatings, harassment by government officials. Christian communities in some countries are are being driven out from places they've existed for centuries

It's awfully convient that you ignore the US, where they oppress everyone else. You know, the part that you cut out of my post to pretend you had a point.

I take issue with that because not only are Christians not being opposed in the society of the vast majority of the posters here and especially in the society where Star Trek is opposed. In a lot of ways, they are the ones causing oppression on individuals which is sometimes protected by laws. This is harming people, but any criticism of this is seen as oppression by Christians. So forgive me if I really can't stand the idea that Christians are being oppressed. In the US, 80% of the population is Christian, their holidays are given special status and their beliefs are held with more value than others. Sometimes over the rights of fellow Americans whose only crime is not fitting into their worldview. Yes, in some places where they are actually killed for their beliefs. But that's a severeviolation of human rights, not really a religious thing.

You'll also notice that I did mention that some Christians are actually oppressed. But the Christians who complain the most about oppression are the least oppressed people in the history of the world. They think oppression is being told that their bigotry is wrong.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Christianity is currently the most oppressed religion in the world. Africa, and the middle east are the worst, but other places around the world too like China and Indonesia.

The hint was in @Awesome Possum's first sentence, where she stated that she's talking about the Western world.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Well, wherever it is or isn't happening, to whatever degree, I was basically getting at the fact that we have had to make the best of whatever society we find ourselves in, whether that means fitting in as best we can or fighting it with peaceful means (changing the culture with love and good news). There will always be those who choose the wrong methods or extrapolate beliefs to be agreeing with actions which were never condoned or suggested.

I just believe Christianity can thrive in any environment if we draw on our Source and strive to listen and follow Him.

 

[OpenMaw]

That's... Fine, but in most of the Western World Christianity has enjoyed being the dominate religion for centuries. They have a stranglehold in the United States and had so much power as to obstruct scientific and social progress because of their personal religious beliefs, and because it can reinforce itself, is all but beyond reproach...

...However, I would say I think it was always a bit of a misstep for Star trek to say that humanity evolved and all-but eliminated religious beliefs/spirituality from their cultures. I think Babylon 5 did a far better job of showing us that most religions would go on, but also change when alien species were encountered, and we would also get new religions like "Foundationalists"

 

[Awesome Possum]

To be honest I found Trek's lack of human religions to be odd. It's one of the reasons I always liked Firefly and it's portrayal of Shepard Book and to a lesser extent the other characters. While I'm not a fan of most religions, but it's part of human culture and history. I find it fascinating really, I just hate how it's used to harm and control people.

 

[.:: TSN ::.]

We really need more actual news on DSC. This is a trailer thread and it has devolved into discussion on Christianity and oppressed religions

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I pray to God that there's a new DSC trailer with actual footage (that we can dissect) real soon!

 

[{ Emilia }]

Have the studios done any research on this whole secrecy thing? I'm kinda baffled by how crazy many producers are about this these days.

I would think it's better to build hype by actually sharing some of the production stuff, talking to people, exciting the fans and so on.

 

[Tenacity]

July 20th is a long ways away, but I hope they have something fairly major at San Diego comic con, a presentation a few minutes long would be nice.

 

[Jedman67]

DSC next trailer will just be Rick Astley singing "Never Gonna Give You Up"

 

[Tenacity]

The primary cast will be seen walking side by side really slowly towards the camera, with fire and explosions going on in the background.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

I want to see that hack job of a starship design get blown to pieces and replaced with an actual, good-looking starship.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The primary cast will be seen walking side by side really slowly towards the camera, with fire and explosions going on in the background.

Or flying into the camera slow-motion screaming...

 

[{ Emilia }]

I hope they'll use a Beastie Boys song to defeat the Klingons.

 

[Nyotarules]

^I hope they use Bollywood music