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What do you want to see in Star Trek 4?

Beyond was a step in the right direction for me.

Get out in space and do some real exploring. No Earth. Just our heroes and space.

I think you can't make a successful movie without something catastrophically dramatic to tell. The exploring thing is nice as a teaser, like they did with the primitive people in STID or the wee monsters in Beyond but for the story per se you need something with more meat.
 
I think you can't make a successful movie without something catastrophically dramatic to tell. The exploring thing is nice as a teaser, like they did with the primitive people in STID or the wee monsters in Beyond but for the story per se you need something with more meat.

Well, it's not like exploration and high stakes are mutually exclusive. The Indiana Jones movies are perhaps the best example of melding the two; maybe ironically, several PC Star Trek games have the same type of narrative as well to drive the action.

Beyond had our heroes go into the virtual unknown and found themselves up against unfamiliar technology from a lost civilization. They were beaten to the punch by a human who fell into a cosmic anomaly, too. So I agree with OpenMaw that they were on the right track there.
 
Well, it's not like exploration and high stakes are mutually exclusive. The Indiana Jones movies are perhaps the best example of melding the two; maybe ironically, several PC Star Trek games have the same type of narrative as well to drive the action.

Beyond had our heroes go into the virtual unknown and found themselves up against unfamiliar technology from a lost civilization. They were beaten to the punch by a human who fell into a cosmic anomaly, too. So I agree with OpenMaw that they were on the right track there.

I know it'll take probably a couple of years, at least, but I really can't wait to see what they'll come up with for the next movie.
 
Personally, I would love to see a "Yesterday's Enterprise" -ish plot for Star Trek (1)4, where the Kelvin is thrown into its future, and meets the Enterprise-A. This alters the JJverse timeline, and wouldn't it be great to see the Enterprise look like a TOS connie (not necessarily the Prime univers, just yet another alternate timeline with the same ship)? James Kirk must wrestle with either keeping his dad, George Kirk alive but destroying his own timeline, or sending him back to certain death to set the JJverse timeline back to normal. And William Shatner cameos as old Kirk from the JJverse's altered timeline future to convince Pine-Kirk to send his dad back.

Please. NO Shatner cameo. I think we all know that won't work.
 
Agreed Shats time on ST has ended. Enjoyed every minute of it even the bad movies n episodes

Yesterday's enterprise sounds good was a GREAT episode just tiring of tome travel but could work

Now combine that with Klingon tensions incredibly high like in Errand of Mercy w organians stepping in on both timelines
Sold.
 
Please. NO Shatner cameo. I think we all know that won't work.
Doesn't need to be done, but there is a way it could be done, if written well. Shatner doesn't need to = KirkPrime, but maybe old PineKirk from the future.

I was kind of channeling Yesterday's Enterprise and DS9's The Visitor.

I have been against including Shatner myself, but since Nimoy passed away, I think if it is a well-written, and well done story, there is a way Shatner could be included.
 
I don't think people grasp that by the time the next film gets made (if it ever does) the dude will be pushing ninety.
 
I don't think people grasp that by the time the next film gets made (if it ever does) the dude will be pushing ninety.
Sure it depends on how well he is doing at the time the movie is made, but I think there will be a Star Trek movie made before 2021. I don't think old age is necessarily a deal breaker. Christopher Lee remained active right up to the end. Heck, my grandfather lived until 98 and just passed away this Jan, and until the last 6 months of his life he was healthy, active, driving, and even learning to use a computer. I see Shatner staying active like that, and as long as his body and mind stays healthy for the next year or so, I don't see why he couldn't do a brief cameo, along the same lines of Nimoy-Spock from Star Trek 2009.
 
Sure it depends on how well he is doing at the time the movie is made, but I think there will be a Star Trek movie made before 2021. I don't think old age is necessarily a deal breaker. Christopher Lee remained active right up to the end. Heck, my grandfather lived until 98 and just passed away this Jan, and until the last 6 months of his life he was healthy, active, driving, and even learning to use a computer. I see Shatner staying active like that, and as long as his body and mind stays healthy for the next year or so, I don't see why he couldn't do a brief cameo, along the same lines of Nimoy-Spock from Star Trek 2009.

I think by 2018-19, he will be pushing ninety. That's likely when the next movie will be shot.
 
Yes, but that's what pushing 90 means.
I know. However, there has been a rather significant upsurge of pedantry in a few of the fora on TrekBBS of late (more than usual, even for Trek fans), so I didn't want any members of the pedant gallery who might wander by to feel left out.
 
I know. However, there has been a rather significant upsurge of pedantry in a few of the fora on TrekBBS of late (more than usual, even for Trek fans), so I didn't want any members of the pedant gallery who might wander by to feel left out.

That's very considerate of you.
 
I think you can't make a successful movie without something catastrophically dramatic to tell. The exploring thing is nice as a teaser, like they did with the primitive people in STID or the wee monsters in Beyond but for the story per se you need something with more meat.

Star Trek IV is still one of the most successful of the Star Trek films. Interstellar and The Martian showed that audiences will watch a science fiction film that doesn't involve huge space battles. Hell, i'll redact what I just said, have a space battle, have phaser fights... Just don't do the bad guy with the Macguffin bomb out for revenge again. That's FIVE Trek movies in a row with that as the core of the main bad guy.

There are other sources of conflict. You've got a Federation full of alien species. Klingons, Romulans. Do a big budget version of Journey to Babel! That's got all sorts of opportunities. There's some big thing going on where if the Enterprise doesn't complete it's mission there could be huge fracturing in The Federation, and they have an alien ship chasing them around trying to prevent them from reaching their destination.
 
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