This is why I think if Star Trek is going to try and borrow from anything, they should try and make it more like Interstellar or The Martian.
What do you want to see in Star Trek 4?
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This is why I think if Star Trek is going to try and borrow from anything, they should try and make it more like Interstellar or The Martian.
The Martian? A guy growing potatoes on Mars is not really my idea of an action-adventure blockbuster! Once the novelty wears of, it has a great potential for being boring as hell.
Or perhaps ID is a factor in why Beyond did'nt draw much interest.
With higher approval ratings from critics and audiences? Unlikely.
Whatever ultimately prove to be the reasons for the lower box office of Beyond, a dislike for Into Darkness will be minuscule among them. For the general audience (FAR more important than "fans" in terms of box office success), the various things "fans" (some, certainly not all, nor even most) find problematic with Into Darkness are not even blips on the screen. General audiences didn't care that Cumberbatch didn't look/sound like Montalban; didn't care the Klingons looked different; didn't care about how quickly the Enterprise made it to the Klingon home world; or about transwarp beaming; or "magic blood"; or... None of that. They enjoyed a visually stunning, exciting action movie and moved on.
Uneven marketing, poorly chosen release date, unusual movie going pattern this summer, three years since last film, a further shift towards waiting for home access to movies, aging demographic of Trek audience (ties into home release trend--a growing issue for all studios and films)--each of these factors is WAY more significant than a negative view of Into Darkness.
I for one enjoyed Into Darkness a great deal more than Beyond. I don't care that Kahn wasn't the right race or that the "magic blood" worked like a deus ex machina. Those were only trifles.
Well, since they'll probably get a lower budget based on the fact that Beyond didn't make a billion dollars (which is the new standard for a production company to care about the project), they'll have to be pretty creative to keep their budget low. Since we already know Chris Hemsworth is returning as George Kirk, I feel like time travel in some form is inevitable. Or universe-hopping, a la Mirror, Mirror. I really wouldn't mind ST4 being a Mirror Universe film. They could have a lot of fun with that.
I don't how I'd feel about an entire movie about the mirror universe. Not very well, I guess.
The Martian:
Budget: $108 million
Gross: $630 million
Star Trek Kelvin Films:
Lowest Budget: $150 million (Star Trek '09)
Highest Gross: $467 million (Into Darkness)
Sci-fi movies about a guy growing potatoes seem to do okay for themselves. I would love to see the next Star Trek film style itself after The Martian or Interstellar instead of trying to be yet another sci-fi action movie in a summer overflowing with them.
Exactly, and I'm not talking about ripping off the plot. Like them or hate them, Interstellar and The Martian were science fiction films on an epic scale. Star Trek is about seeking out new life and new civilizations and exploring the great unknown. An Interstellar-like Star Trek movie could do a fantastic job of that.
I'm going to be a tad flippant here and say one thing I'd love to see in Star Trek XIV.... Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth in their underwear. 
It wasn't, so we'll probably never know.
I'm going on general comments made on TrekBBS and elsewhere (including a number of reviews). You might not find it so, but that doesn't trump the overall trend.
I think one thing is clear - the next one will have to be cheaper. Less spectacle, more plot - might make it a bit more TOS...
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Lin and Pegg can continue doing what they did as far as I am concerned.
I'd also like to see a more unique alien threat. Maybe a new civilization. I know we won't get anything complicated, and it will be likely very simplistic, but I would like an interesting villain race, and something not seen before.
While I love the Enterprise-A from the angles we saw on film, based on the side view concept drawings that were released,I'd also like to see the Enterprise-A 's side view refined. It is hideous.
I had hopes, but he had his chance and blew it.
No he didn't. He did a great job. So what we have now is a difference of opinion and nothing objective to be able to claim as fact.
"You spent all that time and effort to cast off the straitjacket of the Prime universe only to return to it?"
I can imagine the fan drama about that one.
They would sooner have him crash into the red matter with Kelvin and the singularity magically sends him forward in time, he is found, and meets his son. It works all around to explain the lack of the age difference.
I have no hard evidence to back it up, but I suspect Star Trek fans are the reason for any lack of performance of the new films. Just a gut feeling.
Although they are pretty good at making someone look older. That's why it's better to work with young actors that you can easily age with make up while the reverse is not possible. They sometimes try it but it's not very good.
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