In "Rapture," Sisko had his jacket zipped all the way to the top, which seems to have been a mistake in the construction of his uniform. If it was made right, that shouldn't have been possible due to the shape of the collar.
Poll What do you think of the Starfleet uniforms in Star Trek: Picard?
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I like how the Picard era 2390s uniforms look in Star Trek Online, but overall I'm not too impressed. Just feels like they are going backward instead of giving us something new, or adhering to the "All Good Things/Endgame" future. It would've been nice here to just make the Star Trek Online uniforms canon as well. They are inspired by what came before and it would be a nice nod on screen to the game developers and subscribers. That goes with some of the ships as well. CBS already has quite a few ship designs, etc. to use from STO and don't need to use Discovery-era ships and shuttles on Picard. I'm not saying that Picard should make STO canon, but some nice visual nods would not be bad at all IMO.
I could see the 2390s uniforms just hitting that nostalgia button for those who haven't watched Trek in a long time, or were watching it during its late 80s-90s heyday and visually it brings it home quickly for them, or even some long-time Trek fans who yearn for those glory days. I prefer the 2380s uniforms, that we've seen Admiral Picard, Commander Rusiker, and the Verity crew wearing in the Picard: Countdown comic. Those also evoke TNG but feel fresher and more original than the 2390 design. Perhaps the 2390 design is a way for the creators to say Starfleet is mimicking designs from two to three decades ago, going from the 2380s more TNG-like uniforms to the 2390s DS9/VOY-like uniforms.
Glad Armus pointed out how good the Kelvin Universe uniforms have often been overall. I do wish that CBS All Access would have used say the USS Kelvin uniforms in flashbacks on Discovery. Not uniform related, but I wish we had also gotten to see some Kelvin Universe Klingons on Discovery as well.
I could see the 2390s uniforms just hitting that nostalgia button for those who haven't watched Trek in a long time, or were watching it during its late 80s-90s heyday and visually it brings it home quickly for them, or even some long-time Trek fans who yearn for those glory days. I prefer the 2380s uniforms, that we've seen Admiral Picard, Commander Rusiker, and the Verity crew wearing in the Picard: Countdown comic. Those also evoke TNG but feel fresher and more original than the 2390 design. Perhaps the 2390 design is a way for the creators to say Starfleet is mimicking designs from two to three decades ago, going from the 2380s more TNG-like uniforms to the 2390s DS9/VOY-like uniforms.
Glad Armus pointed out how good the Kelvin Universe uniforms have often been overall. I do wish that CBS All Access would have used say the USS Kelvin uniforms in flashbacks on Discovery. Not uniform related, but I wish we had also gotten to see some Kelvin Universe Klingons on Discovery as well.
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another shot from thursday's episode, showing the standard duty uniforms.
they're not that bad, they're just not that interesting.
someone mentioned the gray admiral's uniform could reflect the grayer, less optimistic starfleet of the series. i actually think these kind of arch, slick uniforms with the high collars fits the tone even more, an organization that's full of itself and oblivious. they could've gone further, i don't like the tailoring or the style, but i kind of understand them from a story perspective.
they're not that bad, they're just not that interesting.
someone mentioned the gray admiral's uniform could reflect the grayer, less optimistic starfleet of the series. i actually think these kind of arch, slick uniforms with the high collars fits the tone even more, an organization that's full of itself and oblivious. they could've gone further, i don't like the tailoring or the style, but i kind of understand them from a story perspective.
I don't think anything would preclude an Admiral from commanding a starship, or front line installation. Picard: Countdown has him commanding the U.S.S. Verity.
In Navies, Admirals command squadrons, fleets, task forces or other such groupings. The ship they are physically located on is called "Flag ship" as "Flag officers" have a "Flag" and wherever they are is the Flag ship, if designated as such. Typically that ship has a Captain who commands the vessel itself, whereas the Admiral commands the group as a whole. S/he is located on that ship, but is not its Captain. Though Star Fleet may not do it that way.
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Yeah, but Star Trek isn't beholden to that. If they have a story reason for an Admiral to command a single ship, then they will do it.
Though Kirk's career and his advice to Picard certainly strongly imply that this is not how it is usually done.
They make a nod to "Admirals dont fly" in Star Trek: Beyond. That would not be true, except in the Naval Aviator sense. If you spent 25 years flying fighters off of a carrier deck, once they promote you to Admiral, your days as a pilot are over. Admirals dont fly those missions. But they certainly do command Squadrons, FLeets, Task Forces, etc. In which case they are on the ship. They just do not command it. They command the mission and the group.
Yes. No. Maybe? We saw two Commodore's commanding starships in TOS. Rear Admiral-Lower Half is the same rank carrying one pip. Which is what the Vulcan has on her uniform.
So while it isn't normal, it isn't unheard of either.
Admiral Pike was returning to command the Enterprise in Into Darkness, before being killed by Khan.
Kirk seemed to let the bitterness of his experiences as an admiral really sour him.
Probably because he was forced behind a desk. With threats growing, Starfleet couldn't really allow a loose cannon who is known to bend the rules out there. Kirk had a lot of good reasons to do the things he did, but it didn't change the fact that his impulses ran to the wild side of town.
That is true, as very much evident of the Klingon Ambassador's reaction to the Federation Council President.
So..you're going to give him the ability to order ships (and groups of ships) to go do things he says instead??!!
So..you're going to give him the ability to order ships (and groups of ships) to go do things he says instead??!!
Except he was Chief of Operations. I imagine that toughest thing that came across his desk in a given day was ordering toilet paper for starbases.
Not me. I love alternate versions of characters and what pushes them in a direction that belies their nature. Kirk could've very easily ended up as Matt Decker or Ron Tracy in TOS.
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