What do you think about people "Shipping" Kirk and Spock?

[ZapBrannigan]

You're saying Kirk when was under the impression that he was getting a massage from Spock, they were just two men, celebrating each other's strength?


It's a bit of an obscure piece of trivia that the original purpose of the Bechdel Test (a movie has at least two named women, who have a conversation with each other, which is about something other than a man) was so the originator (Bechdel's friend Liz Wallace) could imagine there was a lesbian (well, two lesbians) in the story.

Re: Kirk's impression, I'm just saying that when he thought Spock was touching him, there was nothing remotely sexual about it. Especially concerning the maker's intentions.

Re: the Bechdel test, that origin is shocking. It would once again reduce women's place in the film to a mere sex-and-romance function, as much as any 1960s spy spoof ever did. Cool!

 

[David cgc]

Re: Kirk's impression, I'm just saying that when he thought Spock was touching him, there was nothing remotely sexual about it. Especially concerning the maker's intentions.

I just couldn't resist the reference.

Re: the Bechdel test, that origin is shocking. It would once again reduce women's place in the film to a mere sex-and-romance function, as much as any 1960s spy spoof ever did. Cool!

I suppose it gets to the matter of what part of yourself you aren't seeing represented, a woman being independent versus a queer woman being in the world without being villainous or tragically doomed or an object of ridicule. Plus, the social dynamics of a same-sex pairing are very different from a heterosexual one; an incidental/imaginary lesbian relationship in the background is very different from the only female presence in a story being a Bond girl whose function is to titillate the audience and reward the male main character.