What Do We Want to Use as Our Abbreviation for Kelvin Timeline Novels?

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Avro Arrow, Apr 16, 2020.

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Choose your favourite abbreviation for the Kelvin Timeline novels:

Poll closed Apr 23, 2020.
  1. ALT

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%
  2. AOS

    2 vote(s)
    4.2%
  3. JJV

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%
  4. KEL

    21 vote(s)
    43.8%
  5. KLV

    17 vote(s)
    35.4%
  6. KT

    3 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. KT-TOS

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%
  8. KTL

    2 vote(s)
    4.2%
  1. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    It always grates for me when I hear someone say "tozz" or "toss" instead of "tee-oh-ess." I've never heard "ting," only "tee-en-gee," (I don't talk about the animated series for it to even come up, though I'd probably be very confused if someone started talking about "tass") and for the others you listed, people just say the full word. Thankfully, we've all been spared "dessen," but that's probably because they use an abbreviation on the show.
     
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  2. DGCatAniSiri

    DGCatAniSiri Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It’s also the abbreviation that’s used on Archive of Our Own, which is why I’m most familiar with it.
     
  3. trampledamage

    trampledamage Clone Moderator

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    Thank you @Avro Arrow for organising the poll. Sorry I've been a little absent, I tend to withdraw from everything when real-life bothers me - well not everything, I'm currently doing a deep dive into fanfic for Stardew Valley, thank the lord for AO3!

    The two designators that I like are currently in the lead on the voting, so I'm happy about that :) Don't let this bit of democracy go to your heads though - still a benign dictatorship round here :lol::lol::mallory:
     
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  4. JD

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    There's also LE for Lost Era, TP for Typhon Pact, I think I've seen TF for The Fall, MU for Mirror Universe.
    People actually do that? I've always just heard people say the letters, Tee Oh Ess, Tee En Gee, ect.
     
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  5. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I wouldn't use any of those abbreviations.

    Just stick with JJverse or Kelvinverse (or even just Kelvin). Much less awkward.
     
  6. Stevil2001

    Stevil2001 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    What I don't like about both frontrunners is that KEL and KLV are more abbreviations for "Kelvin" than "Kelvin timeline." Oddly the defining characteristic of the Kelvin timeline is that it has no Kelvin in it!
     
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  7. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    But Kelvin is a film series originally, and all the onscreen series have had 3-letter subtitle abbreviations.


    I don't think the "timeline" part is required. It's not like The Kelvin Timeline is its actual onscreen subtitle or something, it's just a convenient identifier. So I'm fine with just calling it "Kelvin" or whatever.
     
  8. Avro Arrow

    Avro Arrow Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Funny you should mention that. I remember the first time I heard a YouTube video where someone referred to "tee-oh-ess". My immediate thought was, "What? Who actually says it like *that*!?"

    Turns out the answer is... pretty much everyone. :lol:

    Occupational hazard, I guess. Whenever we implement a new system, we try, if possible, to give it a name where the abbreviation can be said as just a word. So whenever I read an abbreviation that looks like it could be a word, I tend to pronounce it as one. :)
     
  9. JD

    JD Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    For a long time my family always called the Men In Black movies aka the MIB movie, Mib, but then I realized they only ever call it Em-Eye-Bee in the stuff related to it, so I stopped and just refer to it by the letters now.
     
  10. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    I stopped using MU for Mirror Universe, as that got confusing with Myriad Universes, so now I use MiU for Mirror Universe and MyU for Myriad Universes.
     
  11. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    We've got ST for the canon Short Treks, so it doesn't have to be 3 letters.
     
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  12. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    I've always used MU for Mirror and MyrU for Myriad.
     
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  13. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    KT has always come naturally to me, so just add N for novels or timeline, however you want to look at it, but a two-letter acronym is also fine, eg. ST (2009), what else? It’s not going to be STXI.

    ”KEL” doesn’t work officially because it doesn’t abbreviate a single word like Picard or Enterprise.
     
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  14. Avro Arrow

    Avro Arrow Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Well, it was a close vote, but it looks like KEL came out on top!

    I have updated the title for the review thread for The Unsettling Stars accordingly. (I was unable to update the other "ALT" in the poll question, though. @trampledamage , would it be possible for you to update that, please?)

    Thank you to everyone who took part in this little poll! :)
     
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  15. Sci

    Sci Admiral Admiral

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    Genuinely surprised my proposal won.
     
  16. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Congratulations!
     
  17. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    For what it's worth, I've just learned the official abbreviation for Voyager is VGR. I've been calling it VOY all this time.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Hey, it sounded good! Congrats.
     
  19. JD

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    OK, I've always seen it both ways, and I was never sure which was one the official one.
     
  20. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    This suggest the possibility of future shows / movies to include:

    KT-TNG - Kelvin Timeline - The Next Generation
    KT-DS9 - Kelvin Timeline - Deep Space Nine
    KT-VOY - Kelvin Timeline - Star Trek: Voyager

    Do we REALLY want any of those??

    Hmmmm ... I wonder what will happen to the Enterprise-C in the Kelvin Timeline.