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What did you think of the... er.. homage scene? (spoilers)

Watch it a second time. I thought it was utter face palm the first time, the second time I forgave it, the third time I liked it and the fourth time I started crying.

My god I sound like I'm in a cult.

I sobbed the first time (really, other people could hear me), the second time I didn't really have a reaction (guess I was numb), the third time I started crying again. When he says "I'm scared", I just lose it.
 
When did "iconic" come to mean "it's familiar and we like it a lot?"

The same year you can invent a new product and call it "classic."

Really, the only reason Star Trek has been so popular in the modern day is because someone decided to rerun a failed sci-fi show from the 60's around the world. If they had mad TNG with anyone other than Patrick Stewart, and I would have been shocked if it lasted 3 years (he makes that show). TOS is iconic not because it was great, but because it sparked off a couple of good movies and an absolutely great second series (and third, to some people).
 
Watch it a second time. I thought it was utter face palm the first time, the second time I forgave it, the third time I liked it and the fourth time I started crying.

My god I sound like I'm in a cult.

Thank you, teacake, but I can't do that. I really don't want to have to "brainwash" myself into liking STID. After seeing it the one time, it was very clear who the target audience was for this film, and it isn't me.

That's okay. I'm not upset, only disappointed in the fact that the PTB weren't more clear about that a loooong time ago. If they had been, I wouldn't have bothered with the first time.

I'm truly glad that it got better for you with multiple viewings, though. That's good.
 
When did "iconic" come to mean "it's familiar and we like it a lot?"

The same year you can invent a new product and call it "classic."

Really, the only reason Star Trek has been so popular in the modern day is because someone decided to rerun a failed sci-fi show from the 60's around the world. If they had mad TNG with anyone other than Patrick Stewart, and I would have been shocked if it lasted 3 years (he makes that show). TOS is iconic not because it was great, but because it sparked off a couple of good movies and an absolutely great second series (and third, to some people).

Yeah, Deep Space Nine Forever!!! :) I think a lot of people liked it, especially critics. It just wasn't meant to be as commercial as TNG. That's all. Each served their own purpose.
 
Yeah, Deep Space Nine Forever!!! :) I think a lot of people liked it, especially critics. It just wasn't meant to be as commercial as TNG. That's all. Each served their own purpose.

I loved it and watched it religiously until they brought Worf in. I never really liked his character in TNG, and he just turned DS9 into "The Worf Show". I then watched it when I had the time until they killed off Jadzia- I had to stop there because I was so effin' angry, lol.
 
Watch it a second time. I thought it was utter face palm the first time, the second time I forgave it, the third time I liked it and the fourth time I started crying.

My god I sound like I'm in a cult.

I sobbed the first time (really, other people could hear me), the second time I didn't really have a reaction (guess I was numb), the third time I started crying again. When he says "I'm scared", I just lose it.

Am I the only person who smiled at the homage and then out loud said, "Oh snap. Khan shouldn't have pissed off Enforcer Spock."?
 
Watch it a second time. I thought it was utter face palm the first time, the second time I forgave it, the third time I liked it and the fourth time I started crying.

My god I sound like I'm in a cult.

I sobbed the first time (really, other people could hear me), the second time I didn't really have a reaction (guess I was numb), the third time I started crying again. When he says "I'm scared", I just lose it.

Am I the only person who smiled at the homage and then out loud said, "Oh snap. Khan shouldn't have pissed off Enforcer Spock."?

You're not the only one. While I didn't say anything, there was a girl a few rows down in front of us, when Spock screamed "Khan," where you could hear her say, "Ooh, he mad!" :lol:
 
Watch it a second time. I thought it was utter face palm the first time, the second time I forgave it, the third time I liked it and the fourth time I started crying.

My god I sound like I'm in a cult.

I sobbed the first time (really, other people could hear me), the second time I didn't really have a reaction (guess I was numb), the third time I started crying again. When he says "I'm scared", I just lose it.

Am I the only person who smiled at the homage and then out loud said, "Oh snap. Khan shouldn't have pissed off Enforcer Spock."?

I loved how it broke the tension of that scene. I thought the same thing.
 
To expand on what I wrote in this post:

As far as the radiation chamber scene in STiD, I thought it was fucking brilliant. As I've said before it was, at its core, just a John Bradfordesque visual paradox. But there was a deeper meaning than that to it.

As many have said, nuVerse is really a love story between Kirk and Spock. This visual cue here when juxtaposed with that in TWOK demonstrates that the two men are just haves of a greater whole. And however you scramble them up in whatever reality you're in, they belong together.

I think of it akin to a more surreal and somewhat unorthodox take on the traditional Star Trek alternate [mirror] universe.

In this case, the reflection isn't strictly of oneself, but of the other person as an avatar (for lack of a better term) or piece of the self. The "mirror" is a literal pane of glass that separates them. And, when the two scenes are paired, it shows both men can be the subject and the reflection. Either way, can't have one without the other.
 
I knew what was coming as soon as Kirk punched Scotty out. From then on, I enjoyed the scene as it unfolded and tried to pay attention to the differences from Spock's turn in the radiation chamber... specifically how Kirk was dealing with his impending death and Spock watching his friend die.

Which now that I think about it kind of answers Kirk's question at the beginning of the movie: "If I were in there [about to die], what would Spock do?"

I was aware that mirroring was going on but I didn't think it hurt the movie or made it any less. This is a new story, writing new lore, and using the old as a guide.
 
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