What did you like or didn't like about TMP
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Thanks for that. Fascinating read.
I agree on the costumes, they looked like pyjamas and not to metion they didnt look right on the charcters. I think those costumes looked the worst! I loved all the costumes TOS crew wore in the tv series and the movies from TWOK-TUC, but not in this movie. Besides the costumes I didnt like, there were other things I didnt like. One was some the special effects just didnt look right, like for instine the worm hole, the warp drive. I also dint like how some parts of the movie just seemed so long and kept going and going, it was like waching Star Wars wich to me was boring. The only parts in the movie I liked was those moments between Kirk,Spock and McCoy, which was the only thing ke[pt me watching the movie because I love them as my favorite charcters. Other than that it was just boring. It didnt seem as intresting as the tv show and other movies witch always kept you intrested and excited.
I think the Director's Edition did a good job of adding a bit more "life" into the movie, a bit more warmth. They trimmed some of Kirk's snapping at the crew (Uhura and Bones) and the pace is better. It's still a slow film, but the Director's Edition, with just a few tweaks here and there really enhances certain scenes, IMO.
I do think the movie was pretty solid and well-paced up until they reach the V'ger cloud. That's where the movie slows way down, with a few scenes here and there to liven things up a bit.
TMP isn't the best Trek movie, and its got a lot of flaws, but I still like it.
It's strange, but it seems like they went out of their way NOT to have any action in it. I've read older interviews with Roddenberry where he said he didn't want to be like Star Wars, and wanted something more "adult".
Just imagine if when the V'ger energy bolts hit the Enterprise, instead of a few strands of energy coming through, it actually blew up consoles and threw the crew out of their seats (as happened so often in TOS). Or when Spock gets zapped by the energy probe on the bridge, he actually does a back flip or something (like Scotty when he got zapped by the Nomad probe in "The Changeling").
Stuff like that would have added a bit more excitement, but Roddenberry and Wise wanted none of that....Kinda strange.
And yeah, the uniforms were AWFUL. They were so bad that they actually took me out of the movie at times.
But like I said, it's still a good movie, IMO...
I do think the movie was pretty solid and well-paced up until they reach the V'ger cloud. That's where the movie slows way down, with a few scenes here and there to liven things up a bit.
TMP isn't the best Trek movie, and its got a lot of flaws, but I still like it.
It's strange, but it seems like they went out of their way NOT to have any action in it. I've read older interviews with Roddenberry where he said he didn't want to be like Star Wars, and wanted something more "adult".
Just imagine if when the V'ger energy bolts hit the Enterprise, instead of a few strands of energy coming through, it actually blew up consoles and threw the crew out of their seats (as happened so often in TOS). Or when Spock gets zapped by the energy probe on the bridge, he actually does a back flip or something (like Scotty when he got zapped by the Nomad probe in "The Changeling").
Stuff like that would have added a bit more excitement, but Roddenberry and Wise wanted none of that....Kinda strange.
And yeah, the uniforms were AWFUL. They were so bad that they actually took me out of the movie at times.
But like I said, it's still a good movie, IMO...
I *LOVED* when the probe was scanning the bridge and Decker was screaming that the computer console was unresponsive, Spock pops up, yanks him aside and slams both fists against the console, breaking the computer to hell. Then he gets zapped... poor BB.
I always thought that was way strange. I mean, my computer isn't broken if I smash my keyboard.
(shrug) If you assume that console was a main computer interface, and Spock destroyed the console, then he destroyed the interface to the main computer. The computer still exists, but it can't be accessed.
Or it's a goof. I'm not really invested enough to care either way.
Or it's a goof. I'm not really invested enough to care either way.
Computers were strange and mysterious things in 1979. Maybe it was a little like a laptop, like the one I'm using now - if I broke the laptop's keyboard I'd likely also break the whole thing.
This does not seem like the best design functionality, but then, neither is the relative absence of seatbelts. Star Trek, roll with it.
This does not seem like the best design functionality, but then, neither is the relative absence of seatbelts. Star Trek, roll with it.
It makes perfect sense. The keyboard is the input device by which one accesses the computer. V'ger was using that interface. Spock realized this and cut it off by destroying its communication medium.
You forget that Spock can throw a human about like a doll, I'm sure he is strong enough to break a computer console if he needs to.
I'm glad about that, since I don't like Star Wars.
I'm glad about that, since I don't like Star Wars.
I enjoy the Star Wars movies, but its more of a casual interest. It doesn't even compare to Star Trek, IMO...
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Breaking the buttons never bothered me; that Nimoy's lack of physicality comes off like a little girl throwing a karate chop daintily DOES. The novelization and comic adaptation represents it a lot better, being a double fisted slam-down from over his head, instead of this 'I'm going to pull up short' halfassed move that is in the film.
As to the Shatner-off-his-game remark further back ... I'd strenuously agree. With the exception of parts of the 'treating ilia-probe like a kid' scene, I'd say he was off for the whole movie. Hard to tell how much was Wise's fault in terms of direction of actors, but he's the guy who printed these awful takes and then couldn't get them to play even though the whole movie was looped in post, which SHOULD have given them a chance to improved some of it.
I didn't like the whole pause in the movie every time there was the mushy Decker/ Ilia romance.
The whole film was one big pause.
I liked the music. And I liked the character of Will Decker as well as the portrayal of the character by Stephen Collins.
Don't like: The movie is too damn long. We did not need ten minutes of Kirk and Scotty flying a pod around the Enterprise. We did not need forty minutes of the Enterprise flying around V'Ger, with various reaction shots from the bridge crew.
And yes, I know those aren't accurate time counts. Obviously I am exaggerating. Please don't post the actual times the scenes lasted.
Although, ironically my complaint with the scene in Trek XI when the Enterprise was revealed was that they did their flyby too quickly. And that there was no backwards-flipping spaceman.
Don't like: The movie is too damn long. We did not need ten minutes of Kirk and Scotty flying a pod around the Enterprise. We did not need forty minutes of the Enterprise flying around V'Ger, with various reaction shots from the bridge crew.
And yes, I know those aren't accurate time counts. Obviously I am exaggerating. Please don't post the actual times the scenes lasted.
Although, ironically my complaint with the scene in Trek XI when the Enterprise was revealed was that they did their flyby too quickly. And that there was no backwards-flipping spaceman.
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