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What did you like about Nemesis?

While I agree that the infamous "dune buggy" sequence serves no point and has very little logic to it, I enjoy it as a fun scene.

Although, on the nitpicky side of things, why was Data wearing goggles and not Worf? Worf has actual eyes, Data doesn't.

If we go for a real world explanation, yes Brent Spiner has actual eyes and would therefore need goggles. But wouldn't Michael Dorn as well?

Probably stylistic choices, or they just didn't have the right gear to make a set of goggles for Worf that would look anything other than silly.

J.
 
Dorn spent a lot of his time facing in the other direction.

Or maybe he thought goggles were wussy? I have been dune buggy-ing and I have never needed goggles! :P
 
While I agree that the infamous "dune buggy" sequence serves no point and has very little logic to it, I enjoy it as a fun scene.

Although, on the nitpicky side of things, why was Data wearing goggles and not Worf? Worf has actual eyes, Data doesn't.

If we go for a real world explanation, yes Brent Spiner has actual eyes and would therefore need goggles. But wouldn't Michael Dorn as well?

Probably stylistic choices, or they just didn't have the right gear to make a set of goggles for Worf that would look anything other than silly.

J.

Protection for klingon eyes from dust and debris? I'm sure he'd reply with something in regards towards perhaps wearing a bicycle helmet and knee pads too.

He'd be mocked out of the Klingon Empire if he wore them.... in fact, he's lucky they didn't hear about him using a space suit in First Contact :lol:
 
As it goes for what I liked about the movie, there's a lot. First starters would be the whole reflection on what you could have become, ie: Picard's situation...... The tricky concept of Data downloading all of his memories and experiences into b4 prior to being destroyed (Thus a Spock and Bones situation again perhaps), tieing up the loose end of Riker and Troi's relationship, the battle scenes, the intro on Romulus, etc. etc. I was impressed personally.... sure better way to end the TNG movie saga then ending it with Insurection.... jeez.
 
But the movie as a whole... ugh. So many failed opportunities. So badly directed its not even funny anymore. You even can have fun with all the flaws in The Final Frontier, but you can't with the flaws of this movie.
It's weird how we let this slide but suggesting that you're only 99.9% happy with Trek XI will see you set upon from all sides by the fan equivalent of a herd of velociraptors.
 
But the movie as a whole... ugh. So many failed opportunities. So badly directed its not even funny anymore. You even can have fun with all the flaws in The Final Frontier, but you can't with the flaws of this movie.
It's weird how we let this slide but suggesting that you're only 99.9% happy with Trek XI will see you set upon from all sides by the fan equivalent of a herd of velociraptors.

No. To me, while I am working to accommodate this movie a little more than I did in the past, I feel Star Trek XI is far superior in many ways. I love The Final Frontier, despite it's flaws. For me, it all boils down to the characterizations.

Now c'mon guys, let's focus on Nemesis here instead of bringing in issues with other movies.

J.
 
But the movie as a whole... ugh. So many failed opportunities. So badly directed its not even funny anymore. You even can have fun with all the flaws in The Final Frontier, but you can't with the flaws of this movie.
It's weird how we let this slide but suggesting that you're only 99.9% happy with Trek XI will see you set upon from all sides by the fan equivalent of a herd of velociraptors.

No. To me, while I am working to accommodate this movie a little more than I did in the past, I feel Star Trek XI is far superior in many ways. I love The Final Frontier, despite it's flaws. For me, it all boils down to the characterizations.

Now c'mon guys, let's focus on Nemesis here instead of bringing in issues with other movies.

J.

When we're talking about science fiction there has to be more then just characterizations otherwise why do science fiction?

Oh, I forgot to add that I consider Nemesis to be the best of the TNG films.
 
It's weird how we let this slide but suggesting that you're only 99.9% happy with Trek XI will see you set upon from all sides by the fan equivalent of a herd of velociraptors.

No. To me, while I am working to accommodate this movie a little more than I did in the past, I feel Star Trek XI is far superior in many ways. I love The Final Frontier, despite it's flaws. For me, it all boils down to the characterizations.

Now c'mon guys, let's focus on Nemesis here instead of bringing in issues with other movies.

J.

When we're talking about science fiction there has to be more then just characterizations otherwise why do science fiction?

Oh, I forgot to add that I consider Nemesis to be the best of the TNG films.

When I say that, though, I'm referring to my choices between Star Trek XI, TFF and Nemesis.

J.
 
Oh, I forgot to add that I consider Nemesis to be the best of the TNG films.
I heard straight from Q that there ARE no good NG movies.
:guffaw:

Seriously, I liked Troi & Riker finally tying the knot, the music was top notch, production design was cool...
 
I am pleasantly surprised to see that this thread has been as popular as it has been since it was first posted not too long ago.
 
It would be really epic to see John De Lancie featured in a new Trek movie, although he is older he could go with that as part of his characters continuing evolution through Trek.
 
I am pleasantly surprised to see that this thread has been as popular as it has been since it was first posted not too long ago.
Contrary to popular belief, not everyone hates the film, huh?Fact proven. I for one have thankfully a broader view of all the movies, generally speaking, and I didn't fall off the catterpod truck yesterday, either!:bolian:I say less hatin', more luv around these parts,and it goes for all Trek..or am I just bein' too hippyish?This faction nonsense need to be jettisoned out an airlock, bros and sisters...but it starts with RESPECT, yo. Kin I git a YEAUH?
 
Dorn spent a lot of his time facing in the other direction.

Or maybe he thought goggles were wussy? I have been dune buggy-ing and I have never needed goggles! :P

Who needs eyes? :D ;)

The Enterprise E sustaining battle damage. I LOVE battle damage.

Yeah. Sometimes some good battle damage makes things a little more interesting.

Protection for klingon eyes from dust and debris? I'm sure he'd reply with something in regards towards perhaps wearing a bicycle helmet and knee pads too.

He'd be mocked out of the Klingon Empire if he wore them.... in fact, he's lucky they didn't hear about him using a space suit in First Contact :lol:

:lol:

Real Klingons hold their breath! :D

I am pleasantly surprised to see that this thread has been as popular as it has been since it was first posted not too long ago.

Ah, me too. It's nice to see that we can all find some positive aspects to this movie. :)

J.
 
I was going to say "not much". But then I read the warning, lol.

Anyway, I liked the graphics and seeing the crew back together one more time.
 
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