What did Spock do after beaming Kirk ans Scott out?

[Ithekro]

Couldn't they have just reset the transwarp transporter and beamed to Earth?

 

[Brutal Strudel]

Yes. Seeing that Spock is on earth and Keenser on the Enterprise at film's end, I figured Spock and Keenser beamed to earth some time after Kirk and Scott beamed to the Enterprise.

 

[F. King Daniel]

A better question is why he was living in a cave when he knew a Starfleet base was within reasonable walking distance.

You seem to be misunderstanding the timescale here. The entire sordid affair took mere hours, from Nero's capture of 24th century Spock to Nero's defeat in the hands of 23rd century Spock. Within those hours, Nero dropped the older Spock onto Delta Vega - but obviously making damn sure Spock would need more hours than Vulcan had left before he could reach the local Starfleet installation. Otherwise, Spock could warn Vulcan.

Spock would thus indeed be on his way to the installation, but would be too late already (again!). So it would be time to rest - in a cave if one were available. Spock could later complete Nero's sadistic scenario and reach the installation, thereby surviving to grieve.

(Although we don't really see Spock resting in a cave. For all we know, he was walking outside, carrying fire-making equipment provided by Nero lest the Vulcan die of exposure, and saw Kirk and the beast stumbling into the cave; he then followed them in and evicted the beast. After that, he would set up camp there.)

Timo Saloniemi

A better question is why he was living in a cave when he knew a Starfleet base was within reasonable walking distance.

Wasn't he only there for a couple of hours prior to Kirk's arrival?

I suppose he could have been in transit to the base. That never occurred to me.

I always supposed he chose to take to the cave because he was in some kind of shock after the destruction of Vulcan and probably wasn't thinking right and needed to grieve, which would be better done alone, not at a base. After all, true or not, he told Kirk in the mind meld that all of this had happened because of him. Hell of a of a burden to shoulder.

At the same time, you're right that Nero didn't want him dead, but wanted him to live with the burden of what happened to Vulcan, so he put him somewhere where he could eventually find safety, but not before Nero was well on his way to Earth.

I'm just wondering if Spock Prime would've eventually thought wasn't worth it to leave that cave (what's there to live for? who's going to believe him about Nero in the first place? who can even stop Nero if they believe him? what can he do as a man out of time?) until Jim Kirk appears out of nowhere. Kirk's appearance seemed to perk him up and create some hope.

Interpretations vary, of course.

It's also possible he didn't know about the outpost until his meld with Kirk.

feeling that the loss of Vulcan was his fault

Instead of destroying the red matter, if necessary at the cost of his own life, Spock basically handed it to Nero.

Gee, why would Spock feel that the loss of Vulcan could have possibly been his fault?

Not sure where he's supposed to have the time for this. He's captured seconds after emerging from the black hole.

 

[Set Harth]

I figured Spock and Keenser beamed to earth some time after Kirk and Scott beamed to the Enterprise.

Or they just went there the old fashioned way.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

Maybe, but the transwarp transporter was functional with no indication of being single use. Spock's most logical course of action would be to beam directly to earth and warn Starfleet.

 

[Kevman7987]

1. Keenser and Spock closed up the Delta Vega facility and beamed to Earth.

2. All of the coincidences (throughout the first film anyway) were there to show it was these characters' destinies to come together on the Enterprise.

 

[Shat Happens]

Funny how they (the writers) alleged they couldn't find a plausible way to inject Shatner in the movie, but Nimoy they put stranded in the middle of nowhere on an ice planet in the middle of space in the middle of the plot, had him pull an equation out of his space ass and declared that was ok.

 

[Melakon]

Shatner could have done a cameo as George Kirk in the pre-title sequence and gone out in a blaze of glory.

 

[Tosk]

What were the chances Khan would attack an installation headed up by Kirk's ex-girlfriend?

Good luck finding a base that doesn't have any crew that once slept with Kirk.

All of the coincidences (throughout the first film anyway) were there to show it was these characters' destinies to come together on the Enterprise.

Were they? I'd be more inclined to believe that if it weren't for the way that Orci/Kurtzman always seem to write like that. It's like they decide on the major points they want, then just string them together as loosely as possible with no particular care for logic.

 

[Timo]

From the point of view of the 23rd century, there is no coincidence with our TOS heroes all meeting each other. They are just random people with no ties to each other, after all.

The only coincidence comes from the two universes meeting, with Spock from one universe stumbling onto another where things happen remarkably similarly to how they happened in his native one. And Spock comments on this very thing...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Search4]

Well the base had a shuttle - if I interpret things correctly - so there were multiple ways to travel including beaming.

Spock would have known of a base that close to Vulcan in any event - more reasonable if he and Kirk met there rather than a random cave.

 

[Timo]

Well, Scotty showed Spock one shuttle, commenting on how it wasn't in the best of conditions. Perhaps it was flyable, perhaps not; Delta Vega didn't appear to have highlights beyond the base itself and might not have needed transportation. I mean, regulations would probably call for a shuttle to be available, but since Scotty was essentially "doing time" there, his higher-ups might have felt that a broken shuttle would meet the requirements!

An interesting question here is, would that type of shuttle be capable of interstellar travel even if in mint condition? Its engines are tiny compared to those of the other shuttles; only the shuttles of the Kelvin are implied to be capable of interstellar travel, and those of ST:ID of interplanetary travel (Scotty's trip to the Vengeance), and both these craft have engines twice as large in comparison with their overall size.

The big barge might be for transatmospheric and local use only, and wouldn't get Spock out of Delta Vega. Unless Delta Vega were orbiting the same star as Vulcan, within visual range of that planet... But that particular scene probably works better as a symbolic one, since

1) if Nero were interested in putting Spock within visual range of his homeworld's demise, he wouldn't have chosen a planet with almost total cloud cover, and
2) if Delta Vega is Vulcan's next-door neighbor, Scotty should have heard the news.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Shat Happens]

Delta Vega didn't appear to have highlights beyond the base itself and might not have needed transportation. I mean, regulations would probably call for a shuttle to be available,

The big barge might be for transatmospheric and local use only, and wouldn't get Spock out of Delta Vega.

Considering transwarp beaming hadn't been invented yet, it probably have to have interplanetary capacity at least

 

[Franklin]

1. Keenser and Spock closed up the Delta Vega facility and beamed to Earth.

2. All of the coincidences (throughout the first film anyway) were there to show it was these characters' destinies to come together on the Enterprise.

I think a line where Spock Prime said as much was cut from the movie, probably because it was too obvious. However, fulfilling destiny was a big theme in the movie. After all, they came together in the "Mirror Mirror" universe, too. One can be coincidence, two might raise an eyebrow, but three means starting to think about a trend.

Funny how they (the writers) alleged they couldn't find a plausible way to inject Shatner in the movie, but Nimoy they put stranded in the middle of nowhere on an ice planet in the middle of space in the middle of the plot, had him pull an equation out of his space ass and declared that was ok.

Meh. Spock always pulled equations out of his ass. He did it famously in TVH, where he had to calculate some of the variables in time travel from memory. In the same movie, Scotty presented the entire formula for transparent aluminum from memory. What can we say, these people are not ordinary. They're geniuses.

 

[Kevman7987]

Funny how they (the writers) alleged they couldn't find a plausible way to inject Shatner in the movie, but Nimoy they put stranded in the middle of nowhere on an ice planet in the middle of space in the middle of the plot, had him pull an equation out of his space ass and declared that was ok.

Meh. Spock always pulled equations out of his ass. He did it famously in TVH, where he had to calculate some of the variables in time travel from memory. In the same movie, Scotty presented the entire formula for transparent aluminum from memory. What can we say, these people are not ordinary. They're geniuses.

Plus, Spock made sure to resurrect using sci-fi science=magic in TSFS. Kirk just straight up died and his body was crushed under rocks by Picard.

If Shatner wanted to be able to return as Kirk at some point, he should NOT have requested a death scene in GEN. I even said after it was revealed that he wasn't getting a cameo in ST09 because of Kirk's death;
"Well, Bill should have decided not to die after Malcolm McDowell beat his ass."

 

[Melakon]

From everything we've seen so far, NuSpock seems to have an immense problem with controlling anger. I'm wondering if that's going to be significant in the next film. Maybe he'll learn to kick back with a drink after work is over. Drunk, out of control NuSpock might be a sight.

 

[Ovation]

Might resemble "Evil Kirk" in The Enemy Within. Can't imagine Uhura would be happy about that.

 

[Franklin]

From everything we've seen so far, NuSpock seems to have an immense problem with controlling anger. I'm wondering if that's going to be significant in the next film. Maybe he'll learn to kick back with a drink after work is over. Drunk, out of control NuSpock might be a sight.

"Green-blooded hobgoblin? Where's McCoy? Find me McCoy! I don't need his shit! Green-blooded hobgoblin? You ain't gettin' buy with that, any more, McCoy! Where are you, McCoy? I'll mind meld your brain to mush. C'mon, you cracker! Come out and get your Vulcan ass-whipping!" He starts crying, sobbing, "Mommy! Mommy! They're calling me names, Mommy!"

 

[Shat Happens]

1. Keenser and Spock closed up the Delta Vega facility and beamed to Earth.

Since Nero would try to destroy Earth and Kirk could fail to stop him, that's the most illogical course of action I can think of.

 

[trekshark]

Maybe, but the transwarp transporter was functional with no indication of being single use. Spock's most logical course of action would be to beam directly to earth and warn Starfleet.

or beam some kind of bomb onto Nero's ship