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What art thee saying?

A beaker full of death

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Anyone else bugged by the misuse of the word "thee" in Amok Time (and this thread title)? First, the word should have been "thou." Second, since presumably T'Pau was trying to speak formally, it should have been "you."
 
Yes. But I don't think I'd try to correct her grammar if I were there.
 
Well, we are dealing with an alien language. Since T'Pau was a member of Spock's family, maybe she was using an archaic familiar form that "thou/thee" would be a valid approximation for. And her use of the objective form rather than the subjective may have approximated some other quirk of Ancient High Vulcan -- maybe a superior addressing an inferior addresses him in the objective at all times, or something.

Or maybe Ensign Sturgeon in Linguistics misprogrammed the translators that week....
 
A beaker full of death said:
Anyone else bugged by the misuse of the word "thee" in Amok Time (and this thread title)?

It made me hate old, foreign women to this very day.

Joe, bitter
 
It is the difference between speaking Old High Vulcan in formal circumstances/rites versus modern Vulcan.
 
English formal: you
Vulcan formal: thee
English familiar: thou
Vulcan familiar: hey, dumbshit
 
Maybe she's also used to speaking native Vulcan and doesn't speak English that much, so when she tried it, she got the odd word confused every now and then.

My wife came over here from Poland and has been learning English for the past two and a half years. I'm still correcting here on choice of words and pronunciation, and this is a woman who worked as a translator and already spoke four languages prior to learning English!
 
A beaker full of death said:
Anyone else bugged by the misuse of the word "thee" in Amok Time (and this thread title)? First, the word should have been "thou." Second, since presumably T'Pau was trying to speak formally, it should have been "you."


I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but why are we discussing AMOK TIME this week, when the episode of the week is BREAD AND CIRCUSES?
 
gastrof said:
A beaker full of death said:
Anyone else bugged by the misuse of the word "thee" in Amok Time (and this thread title)? First, the word should have been "thou." Second, since presumably T'Pau was trying to speak formally, it should have been "you."


I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but why are we discussing AMOK TIME this week, when the episode of the week is BREAD AND CIRCUSES?

Because it's a TOS forum, not a "Remastered Episode of the Week" Forum.
 
T'Pau was dealing with Humans at least since the ENT trilogy episodes on Vulcan. I am very certain she is speaking formally because this is an important Vulcan ritual.
 
I'm more pissed that the Queen says "We" when she means "I". I mean, come ON now, that's comPLETEly wrong!


;)
 
Why does she even say "thee" anyway?

Oh, wait -- she wears all black, Kirk says she's rather insular, and she refuses to use a modern vehicle to get to the marriage ceremony . . .

T'Pau is Amish!
 
gastrof said:
A beaker full of death said:
Anyone else bugged by the misuse of the word "thee" in Amok Time (and this thread title)? First, the word should have been "thou." Second, since presumably T'Pau was trying to speak formally, it should have been "you."


I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but why are we discussing AMOK TIME this week, when the episode of the week is BREAD AND CIRCUSES?

"Episode of the week?" I don't know what you're talking about. I posted a thread about Amok Time. What's the problem?
 
Ronald Held said:
T'Pau was dealing with Humans at least since the ENT trilogy episodes on Vulcan. I am very certain she is speaking formally because this is an important Vulcan ritual.

You're missing the point.

jayrath said:
Why does she even say "thee" anyway?

Oh, wait -- she wears all black, Kirk says she's rather insular, and she refuses to use a modern vehicle to get to the marriage ceremony . . .

T'Pau is Amish!


Well, that almost explains the accent....
 
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