Spoilers What are your unpopular Sci-Fi & Fantasy Opinions?

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Saul, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Ethros

    Ethros Vice Admiral Admiral

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    My friend and I's favourite films are the Back to the Future trilogy. One day we sat and watched all 3, but had to take a break after the second one for an hour, and then hardly enjoyed the third as we were getting restless. Totally agree I can't just sit and watch something for hours and hours, no matter how good it is. I gotta get up and do something after a while.
     
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  2. Saul

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    I dunno. Hand the spouse the divorce papers in the morning, kick the children out shortly afterwards and make a giant bowl of mac and cheese?

    I never binge watched a season in a day. I think the most I binged was 3,4, 5 tops and that was probably something like 'Breaking Bad' or some animated series that had 28 minute episodes. The longest I have binged was star Wars episodes 1-6. Took over 15 hours with breaks for food, fresh air, bathroom stops. I started with the prequels which made me sleepy but the original trilogy had me wide awake. I'm tempted to do a marathon of episodes 1-9 one day....
     
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  3. Crusher Disciple

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    Yeah, but it can't compare to the majesty of the original AT-AT walkers. :adore:
     
  4. fireproof78

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    To each their own.
     
  5. TREK_GOD_1

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  6. fireproof78

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    Mileage will vary.
     
  7. TREK_GOD_1

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    The strongest part of SM3 is the relationship collapse/rebuilding between Peter and Mary Jane. That was in keeping with the great development of SM 1 & 2. Venom--a character I've always found to be idiotic--was so out of place in that film. Overall, the Raimi Spider-Man films are by far the best filmed representation of the character to date.
     
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  8. The Borgified Corpse

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    Depends on how close towards the end of his tenure. His final season is definitely a struggle for me. I don't like the change in tone from a family show to more of a serious sci-fi show aimed at teenagers. And Tom Baker had clearly mentally checked out for most of that season. His penultimate season is very mixed. Your mileage will depend on how much you enjoy watching Tom Baker adlib through a lot of really weak material. I mostly enjoy that (and have a tiny crush on Lalla Ward's Romana:adore:) but I can see how others might not.

    To be fair, while Roddenberry may not have written many seminal Star Trek works, he is the creator of Star Trek's utopian ethos. The fundamental ideals of pacifism & cooperation, while not always conducive to the most dramatic storytelling, are the key ingredient that separates Star Trek from the other television & sci-fi of the era.

    I wholeheartedly disagree, at least about Picard. Sisko is a very interesting, human, multifaceted character (although Kira, Odo, & O'Brien all got better material). But Picard always bugs me in the way that a lot of fictional characters do when they make a big moral stand about never killing even though there's sometimes justification for it. (Also looking at you, Batman & Doctor Who!) What I love about Captain Kirk is his moral clarity. He's a man who hates killing and always searches for a peaceful solution but doesn't hesitate or apologize when violence ends up being the only solution. I think it comes from the paradox of Gene Roddenberry being a horny, free-thinking hippie while also being an ex-police officer & WWII vet.

    Agreed. Why are we not neck deep in Tron Legacy sequels by now? I just don't understand. :(

    When I filter out all of the Rose worship, I actually enjoy most of Tennant's later run. He could still be very over the top sometimes ("The Doctor's Daughter," the endings of "Waters of Mars" & "The End of Time"). But he also had flashes of greatness, both on the comedic side ("Partners in Crime," "The Unicorn & the Wasp") and the dramatic side ("Midnight").

    I kinda like the political incorrectness of Temple of Doom. It feels more authentically 1930s that way! :D
    Raiders of the Lost Ark is one of the greatest action movies of all time but the ending is kinda anticlimactic.
    The Last Crusade is the best movie on a structural level since it actually ends with an emotional climax driven by a character decision. "Indiana, let it go."

    I did that once back in 2008. I spent an entire Saturday gulping down the entire 2nd half of Torchwood Season 1, then went straight into Captain Jack's 3 episode arc at the end of Doctor Who Season 3. I might have done something similar for some seasons of Community, Law & Order, Stargate SG-1, and Stargate Atlantis. I can't specifically recall. But it's been a while. I don't have the same stamina for entertainment now that I did in my 20s.
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    Too niche.
     
  10. TREK_GOD_1

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    That, and TOS being created/produced (by people of a generation who lived through incredibly dark periods of history) during the height of the Cold War also shaped the creation of more realistic characters dealing with conflicts in an equally realistic manner as opposed to someone (Picard) on a ship knowing that he will end up facing dangers, but pretending as if conflict and the occasional need to kill do not exist, or are some outlier from a bygone era.

    Yes, he was so much better after Rose's departure and he behaved like an adult again. Rose has to be one of the worst companions in the franchise's history.
     
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    This, times a thousand. Raiders is indeed one of the greatest of all time and the tone of the entire franchise is very in keeping with the time in which it is set.
     
  12. Smellmet

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    Don't get me wrong. Temple of doom is one of the best blockbusters of the 80s, it's exciting, hilarious, preposterous and more than the sum of it's parts. It literally gives zero fucks and and just ploughs on like a... runaway mine cart? I reckon it's probably the film I've rewatched more than any other, in excess of 200 times. Last crusade is excellent too, but I don't love it quite as much as the other two for reasons I can't put my finger on.

    I just think raiders is on another level entirely.
     
  13. The Borgified Corpse

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    How is Tron Legacy too niche? It's about a guy who gets stuck inside a computer program that looks like a neon cyberpunk rave. Seems to me like an understandable SF/F story with a one-of-a-kind visual aesthetic. Maybe I was just too taken away with the film myself at the time but it never occurred to me that it would be financially unsuccessful. Sadly, I've never experienced a film that suffers more from the downgrade from cinema to home theater. :( I'd love to see this on the big screen in 3-D again.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Because it is about a guy stuck inside a computer. Even Wreck IT Ralph, with it's broad appeal to a younger audience, didn't have a huge amount of staying power. Maybe there is more to it, but it strikes me as much too niche to keep trying to expand.
     
  15. Smellmet

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    It just didn't quite earn enough unfortunately - personally I think it just about did - 400m in 2021 dollars is around the 480m mark so you'd think that would be just about enough, but the suits thought otherwise.

    I really enjoyed Tron Legacy by the way. It's on my hit list to get on 3D Blu Ray so I can watch it on the VR headset. I thought the visuals were amazing.
     
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    I like the Stargate movie a lot more than the series, and I wish we had gotten the movie trilogy that was originally conceptualized, instead of all these TV spinoffs and straight-to-video sequels to the TV show.

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  17. Oddish

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    After watching the Disney version of Prince Caspian, I just have to say... I totally shipped Caspian/Susan after that. Susan should have stayed behind. Not only would this awesome power couple have stayed together forever... but we'd have gotten to see the other three Pevensies have to try to explain what happened to her.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    I was recently listening to a podcast, Film Sack, that discussed Stargate and one of the host highlighted the aspect of the film that I really liked and would have enjoyed seeing it continued. The idea of Ancient Egypt being this almost alien culture and really highlighting the alienness in this film by having it be ancient aliens. And I would have enjoyed seeing that concept go forward, because the film clearly had a different idea for that alien nature than the show would unpack.

    That said, I love both the show (SG-1) and the film so I would be hard pressed to say one is a favorite. But, I do think there was some untapped potential left behind.
    Honestly, with how far the film strayed from the book that would have been a difference I could get behind. It would have been nice to see there be a measure of consequences to their adventures.
     
  19. Oddish

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    Admittedly true. PC was not as easy a work to adapt as the first one. And VDT was harder still: the whole "Narnia in mortal danger" theme was completely made up. The original book was just an expedition to find the lost lords, it read more like a cruise than a heroic quest. A cruise had happened to include nearly being enslaved, being menaced by invisible one-legged Pakleds, and a passenger getting turned into a dragon.
     
  20. Owain Taggart

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    I SO agree with this! Yeah, I loved the concept that the original movie brought forward. As much as I like the TV series, it's one thing that seemed to evaporate. The air of mystery was also pretty much gone and it seemed to become a little too "safe" and banal, as part of something that looked like an everyday occurrence. The movie played off a much higher concept than what the TV show ended up portraying. Count me in as a fan of the movie :D