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Nope.
I achieved this state of existence by not having a stick rammed up my buttocks. Try it
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What are your thoughts about seeing the prime universe again?
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Whether you give a shit or not is irrelevant. See you after the ban.
Nope.
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So, in effect, Discovery is the Jurassic Park/World of Star Trek.
Couldn't be more wrong. I am a "proud member of the Prime camp" and if I had any saying I wouldn't have asked for a TNG/DS9/VOY/NEM continuation show. As I've said in another thread my dream TV series would have been an anthology series set in the "Lost Era" between TUC and TNG. Show us different crews and different ships such as the Enterprise-C, the Excelsior, the Enterprise-B, the Stargazer. Show us how the Federation, Klingon and Romulan politics evolved in that prime time period. But I don't see how my personal dream show makes me "dishonest" because I love that we're getting a prime pre-TOS show and not a Kelvin "whatever" show.
Let's hope and wish DSC be just as successful.
Like I said 1,457,928 posts ago: continuity of concept no continuity of canon.
You may have missed the quote by Fuller where he says he chose the Prime timeline because he wanted to be able to use some of the elements. So, I'd expect the show to tie into the timeline.
In other words, the scant evidence we have suggests that it *won't* be meaningless.
Mr Awe
That's just fluff. Those "elements" exist regardless.
This was definitely true. Let's be clear on this this, the no way, now how it'll be Prime and you're stupid to think otherwise, are reaping what they've sown.
That said, we should all get along and just wait and see what the show is like. Sure, discuss the possibilities. But, we really know very little about it.
Mr Awe
But you can use the elements that you want, and discard what you don't think works by doing a simple reboot. Which is what I think is going to happen here. Nothing stopped Abrams and company from using the elements they wanted, even though it wasn't the Prime timeline.
That's your opinion. That's fine, but you have no evidence to support it. My response would be that those elements are not meaningless because they're the reason why they ultimately went with Prime over Kelvin.
We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
Mr Awe
"A favorite TOS episode "Balance of Terror" is a touchstone for the Star Trek Discovery story arc" Brian Fuller tweeted Thursday night.
Please remind me, is "Balance of Terror" part of the "fossilized" "oldTrek" Prime universe?
Please remind me, is "Balance of Terror" part of the "fossilized" "oldTrek" Prime universe?
Perhaps. Again, we'll have to wait and see. We just don't have enough evidence either way.
I'm thinking that if they chose Prime to be able to use those elements, then it'll be apparent onscreen that we're in the Prime universe. Fuller is also a fanboy so I don't think he'll go breaking canon all willy nilly either.
Mr Awe
It's not my opinion. It's how it works. The last 80 years of comic books attest to that.
Honestly, when one looks at what happened with TMP and TNG, they would likely fall under the term "reboot" now (retooling back then). Total changes in look and tone, as they filtered out what Roddenberry considered the sillier (fun) elements of TOS to try and make Trek more serious sci-fi. Heck, TNG was "retooled" in season three as well. When a different writing staff came in and took over.
The various shows share a calendar to some degree, but they really never looked or felt the same as TOS.
It's not the word, it's what is meant by it. I'd expect this show to look different than the other shows, just like all the other Trek shows in the Prime timeline!
For me, the look is just the window dressing. The real substance is the story. If the story is set in the Prime universe that means that, in universe, the events of the other Prime series had happened or will happen. It forms a larger tapestry that is larger than any individual series. That's why it is important to some that it is in in the Prime timeline.
For others, this is not as important. There is no correct answer either way. It's just a matter of preference.
For me personally, if the stories are not compelling, the universe that it takes place won't save the show. So, good stories are the top priority in my book. But, I am also a bit happy that it is a Prime show. I love the time frame they chose as well.
Mr Awe
No, it's your opinion. Sorry to inform you but just because you think something doesn't make it a fact!
Mr Awe
The look plays a big part in selling the show. Other shows didn't take place concurrently with other shows and offer a distinctive look from the rest. Even DS9 had the Starfleet portions of the show look like the rest that took place concurrently with it.
For the first time, we are changing the look of a known time period and claiming it is still the same as what came before. Even the shows that went to the 23rd century, acknowledged that look.
Honestly, it made me laugh. But the attitudes of those like you who were so convinced it had to be Kelvin and you'd be an idiot to think otherwise were a bit much. So, it's understandable.
But, we should all just try to discuss this show peacefully even when we disagree. Personally, I'm just going to wait and see. I trust the team making the show so I feel like we'll get a good show regardless of the specifics.
Mr Awe
