What are your thoughts about seeing the prime universe again?
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Yes, this is clearly something they'd lie about because they have so much to gain from setting up false fan expectations!
Mr Awe
Kind of like Karl Urban saying Benedict Cumberbatch was Gary Mitchell and other classic Trek bad guys? Nope, people never lie about things to get fans excited.Yes, this is clearly something they'd lie about because they have so much to gain from setting up false fan expectations!
Mr Awe
CAN'T UNSEE JOHN CENA AS CAPTAIN OF THE DISCOVERY, IN STARFLEET-ISSUE JORTS WITH RANK STRIPESHow much?
It's like an advert for the WWE network in here.
We'll see in four months, won't we?
Yep!
Could you imagine the Hell a small group of fandom would raise if they said it was in the Abramsverse?
WWE guest shots are a trek tradition...
Hell, if you want to get down to the strict canon of it all, there's probably 10 time lines that now exist within Star Trek.To get really picky, ENT started out in the prime timeline, but with all the timey-wimey stuff that happened in it, we don't actually know if it ended up that way
To get really picky, ENT started out in the prime timeline, but with all the timey-wimey stuff that happened in it, we don't actually know if it ended up that way
Well, we kind of do - the notion that Deanna Troi and Will RIker would be having the exact same adventure with the Pegasus in exactly the same way that they did in TNG, with every detail (except their waistlines) duplicating TNG, in a history that had gone off in a variant direction two hundred years earlier, is sort of a nonstarter.
Unless, of course, the "variant direction" IS the explanation for the differences in waistlines (and other, evident signs of aging/worse shape). I'd certainly like to have that in my grab bag of excuses when I look in the mirror some days.Well, we kind of do - the notion that Deanna Troi and Will RIker would be having the exact same adventure with the Pegasus in exactly the same way that they did in TNG, with every detail (except their waistlines) duplicating TNG, in a history that had gone off in a variant direction two hundred years earlier, is sort of a nonstarter.
Well, we kind of do - the notion that Deanna Troi and Will RIker would be having the exact same adventure with the Pegasus in exactly the same way that they did in TNG, with every detail (except their waistlines) duplicating TNG, in a history that had gone off in a variant direction two hundred years earlier, is sort of a nonstarter.
But it wasn't exactly the same way, waistlines exempted. When one compares TATV to the actual TNG Pegasus episode, things don't line up the same way. Plus, it's obvious that Riker wasn't screwing around in the holodeck during the events of the actual episode. He also had a completely different reason for telling Picard the truth than how he came to it in TATV.
Ironclad proof that ENT ended in a different timeline than when it started
The continued juvenile "I told you so" posts from various posters here, as if making the right choice with a 50/50 chance is some impressive achievement, are pretty sad and pathetic, as are the continued calls for those who were incorrect to come here and beg forgiveness for their transgressions, as if thinking the Prime Universe might not come back is some massive failing on their part. Who the hell cares? Can't you just enjoy that you're getting what you wanted (and what I wanted) without trying to elevate yourself over other fans over such petty and insignificant bullshit?
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The continued juvenile "I told you so" posts from various posters here, as if making the right choice with a 50/50 chance is some impressive achievement, are pretty sad and pathetic, as are the continued calls for those who were incorrect to come here and beg forgiveness for their transgressions as if thinking the Prime Universe might not come back is some massive failing on their part. Who the hell cares? Can't you just enjoy that you're getting what you wanted (and what I wanted) without trying to elevate yourself over other fans over such petty and insignificant bullshit?
I think a lot of the people here are just calling out the ones that say this will not really be a prime universe show but will be closer to NuTrek because of the look or that Fuller will change things in Prime and that the show really won't be in the Prime we all know.
Seriously? This was the 4th post of in the entire thread:
And these were the only prior posts:
The 'not really prime' thing didn't even start until the 2nd page of
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Which is how I've said they should go about it all along. The mistake was announcing"Prime!" because some seem to have taken it as some great proclamation, when it's really meaningless.
Unless, it's as I said: just a cheap attempt to pander.
Yep. Here's my rationale:
1. According to Fuller's comments, there wasn't any real impetus for setting the show in the prime universe. They just wanted to avoid the new films because they didn't want to tread on their toes story-wise.
2. Fuller uses the word "reimagining" quite a bit. As in, "This show is not going to look like it was made in the '60's, with '60's production values." So don't expect it to look anything like TOS, especially "The Cage" which it's supposed to parallel timeline-wise.
3. "Prime" universe is just a buzz word, and probably doesn't mean the same thing to Fuller as it does to us.
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