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What are your thoughts about seeing the prime universe again?

None of the ones I mentioned were mindscrews/illusion. McCoy, Scott and Spock were dead and brought back by super science.
Yes I know it was a Khanian in the cryotube. And the tube stopped Kirk's brain from dying. Barely dead and barely alive are pretty much the same thing. Like half a glass of water.

Why is this a problem? They now have a treatment for severe radiation sickness. ( I think they're curing it with shots by TNG's time) Again this is a problem, why? Of course you have to survive the cure, which seems to be pretty rough. But If you were barely dead I guess it doesn't matter :lol:

The regenerative properties of the Genesis process should also be a game changer ( Come get your new youthful body, gramps!) The advance medtech of the Shore Leave planet should also be a game changer. (massive chest trauma? No problem!) What about the anti aging serum from the Deadly Years? Geriatric no more!
Also, the spores used to regrow organs from "This Side of Paradise", and the transporter used to cure/de-age Pulaski in "Unnatural Selection".
Exactly so. Trek uses "magic tech" all the time, but Abrams' gets torn asunder for it because it uses different terminology :shrug:


All game changing tech in Star Trek is locked way in a vault apparently. That's why they aren't transwarp teleporting androids and holograms to the other side of the Galaxy

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It's really the inability of many fans to understand what's going on in the new films that speaks to some sort of cognitive dysfunction.
I generally like the new films. However, there's not a lot going on in them that needs to be understood!! They're not complex.

Mr Awe
 
Pretty much where I land - when the new series was announced, I thought that we were most likely to get another Kirk /Spock reboot, this is probably the next best thing in my mind.

Especially with the 13-episode, serialized format it'll follow. I know Star Trek has had serialized storytelling before (DS9, Enterprise season 3), but to do it in a modern way excites me. I'm skeptical about it being on CBS All Access, but beyond that, like I wrote before, totally stoked.
 
Especially with the 13-episode, serialized format it'll follow. I know Star Trek has had serialized storytelling before (DS9, Enterprise season 3), but to do it in a modern way excites me. I'm skeptical about it being on CBS All Access, but beyond that, like I wrote before, totally stoked.
I'm not convinced that CBS All Access isn't going to be a disaster. I just hope that Discovery doesn't end up being a fall guy and the show can find a home with Netflix or some other partner if needed.
 
Yet another thread devolving ala Godwin's law into Prime vs. nuTrek (Kelvin).

The earlier Prime vs. nuTrek tug-of-war seemed to be about the franchise's future existing in either one or the other universe, not both. So it took on a real Democrat vs. Republican sort of furvor.

Discovery solves this impasse so that each subgroup can just file over to their appropriate sandbox and leave the other alone. I'm hoping that brings some closure to the civil war.

Then again, if Discovery becomes prime in name only, with Applestore bridges and lens flare, then we're in for trouble...
 
It's some degree, but it isn't the cornerstone. The whole point of Star Trek was that humanity survived the constant threat of nuclear war and managed to come together.

I agree. It's one of the things people tend to forget. It's kind of my point in asking the questions I have and saying the things I have.
Trek is a very specific mix of things like this, which individually are no longer unique thanks to Treks influence, but the specific blend, combined with design elements and it's continuity, do make it unique. It's like an iPod...it wasn't the first of its kind (Space Opera and even Space Opera Serials pre exist it) but it was the most successful, and as a result, is the one that influences everything that comes after it. (It may not even be the best, but I can't think of many Space Operas that even get a shot in there against it. Stargate maybe. But I never liked that and am not sure it's entirely in the same genre....it's definitely Treks closest relative for longevity and to an extent structure.)
 
Completely agree.

It often seemed like TPTB were trying too hard, perhaps out of a feeling of obligation, to try to bind all the shows together by attaching a laundry list of things to each episode or season to keep it in line with the greater whole--like, each season had a Rommie or Borg quota, or whatever. It was sort of a half-hearted attempt at world building through the pretense of continuity.

Yet all the shows were so insular and self-contained that it really didn't matter.

Take something like the Maquis. It was briefly introduced in one show, briefly established in another to be used in a third. However, its significance in the first two series was minimal at best, and it's actual impact on the third was so small, one could argue it wasn't even worth the effort. All to create some sort of false bridge connecting the three shows.

However, everything else (Cling-ots, Rommies, Borg, et all) were all portrayed very differently from series to series. They included them out of obligation but changed them to fit the needs/time/agenda. Some were changed so much that one can't help but wonder why they ever bothered maintaining the illusion of a single universe at all. And why this one wonders why Fuller continues to do it.

It was pretty paint by numbers. And by "excellent" do you mean cliched and trite and overly pretentious?

The acting wasn't bad, though.

The Maquis didn't quiet work the way you describe. They were there to set up Voyager, but ultimately Ds9 got way more mileage out of the concept (and with more impact than you seem to think) at the same time Voyager decided not to use that part of its original set up quite as much....they all do this. TNG never bothered much with Riker and Troi's telepathic link, totally dropped the Ferengi as the antagonistic race, and Saucer Seperation becomes a rare thing, in terms of its inheritance from TOS, it even loses some of its exploration after series two. Ds9 is rare that it keeps and continues using it throughout (picking up more as it goes) with the possible exception of the antagonism between Kira and Starfleet....but that is a logical outgrowth of the story.
There's also a lack of mad admirals and any commodores at all, of any kind, not even Lionel Richie (though his hair continues to guest star with Troi until as late as S7 of TNG) in the later TNG era shows, despite the strong tradition of mentally unstable or untrustworthy superiors set up in TOS. I doubt it was that easy with Nogura.
 
No it isn't.
Yes it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You don't know that.
Yes I do.
You don't know that.
Yes, I do.


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Have I missed anything?

Some jokes, some discussion, and two different forms of farmyard faeces. Which do you want first?
 
False dichotomy, really. I'm sure there are more fans of both than fans of only one or the other.

I am a fan of the prime shows (except enterprise) because they entertain and interest me and are Star Trek. I have seen the rest only because they are Star Trek, or are an attempt to be, and I don't hate them. I am not sure that makes me a fan of both.
 
My thought is this won't greatly resemble the Prime Universe I first encounterd in the late 1960's and I'm fine with that.

It will have to resemble it to some extent. Probably uniform design and some other touches. The thing is that it will be set in the Prime universe in which all the other universes branch off from. Yup.
 
It will have to resemble it to some extent. Probably uniform design and some other touches. The thing is that it will be set in the Prime universe in which all the other universes branch off from. Yup.

Fuller already said the uniforms wouldn't look like those from the time period.
 
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