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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Very Short Treks is the only series that I consider truly bad.

Someone will say, "I thought you didn't like Enterprise or Strange New Worlds or the Abrams Films!" I'm just not into them. They're not my cup of tea. Not being into them isn't the same as thinking they're bad.
Very Short Treks - from the same genius marketing team that brought you "The Starship is Landing" and the terrible Trek NFTs the Disco cast rightfully got grilled over promoting on twitter.
 
I have never understood why people hated Kirk’s death in Generations.

He gave up eternity in paradise to save 230 million people who will never know he even existed.

Can’t get much more heroic than that!

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Very true. It's just not well done. And it isn't even mentioned in the rest of the movie.

I like the movie but I find the way Kirk is used in the last half of the film a bit of a waste. Even the writers feel they kind of lost the thread.
 
The sad thing is that what we saw on theaters was actually a re-shoot, because the first cut wasn’t apparently good enough. Shatner mentioned that he had just gotten the call-back in an addendum to his Movie Memories book, excited that maybe Kirk might be allowed to live. The book went into publication before they filmed, I guess, as I don’t recall his reaction to the update after they wrapped a second time.

I honestly can’t even contemplate how much worse it could have been to necessitate bringing everyone back to that location. Re-shoots are generally stoopid-expensive. It must have been epically bad.
 
The original ending is available in full on the Generations DVDs and Blu-ray releases, but here's a cut-down version of it:

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IIRC, it was easier the second time because they were there later in the year in the "Valley of Fire" location.
 
I just think it also removes a bit of meaning with the way it happens.
He fought to save others, countless others.

The bridge he was fighting on got weakened significantly during the fight, and he fell to his demise.

It wasn't random, it was a consequence of his battle to save the future of countless people.

It's not like he was on a random hike, and boom the bridge fell.
 
He fought to save others, countless others.

The bridge he was fighting on got weakened significantly during the fight, and he fell to his demise.

It wasn't random, it was a consequence of his battle to save the future of countless people.

It's not like he was on a random hike, and boom the bridge fell.
Again, people take it differently. What you say is logical but when I watch the movie it just fails to hit the way you describe.
 
Again, people take it differently. What you say is logical but when I watch the movie it just fails to hit the way you describe.
Would you have prefered if Kirk had been walking on a normal hike, and while walking over a shoddy / shakey bridge, he falls to his doom? Death due to shoddy maintenance of a bridge.

Or would you prefer the current outcome, where he was fighting Soran, the bridge they were on was weakened, and he fell to his demise because of a result of his scuffle with Soran?

One is heroic, the other is a freak accident.
 
Would you have prefered if Kirk had been walking on a normal hike, and while walking over a shoddy / shakey bridge, he falls to his doom? Death due to shoddy maintenance of a bridge.

Or would you prefer the current outcome, where he was fighting Soran, the bridge they were on was weakened, and he fell to his demise because of a result of his scuffle with Soran?

One is heroic, the other is a freak accident.
That's a rather binary choice and ignores my actual objection.
 
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