What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Thank you for this. 
You think people were upset at the actual ending of nuBSG? There would have been mass civil disorder if THIS had been the ending (which, IIRC, it almost was):
I wasn't personally so bent out of shape about the ending as I was about other things they seemed to want to do and then just let completely hang.
There were many things, but the one that stuck with me the most was a scene where Roslyn was reading something from the Book of Pythea to Adama, about "he who should not be named". Now, clichéd tropes and snarky references to Voldemort aside, but just who in the candy-apple-phuck was that supposed to be exactly? I specifically watched the commentary of that episode to see what the thinking was behind that and I think Eick was just babbling about something else completely unrelated and never explained what that was supposed to be about. I later read where they just threw random shit like that into the show's DNA to add to the atmospheric flavor with quasi-spiritual mumbo-jumbo, with zero intention of ever expounding upon it. This irked me greatly.
And just exactly how did the Kobollians build their little holo-planetarium with references to the "old" constellations (using our current Zodiac names) for the 12 Colonies, positioned in exactly the same way we see them today, not taking into account any form of stellar drift, when they were supposed to be tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of years in our past?
And who/what was Starbuck after Maelstrom? Was she an angel? A demon? A ghost? Did she know what she was? She seemed to achieve some form of existential understanding before she disappeared but seemed genuinely clueless how she was resurrected.
Who were the "head" people? Who was the Cylon "God"?
So, by the time the ending actually came around, I was more disappointed that there were no payouts to any of these mysteries that seemed intricately woven into the storyline. At the end of the day, they meant nothing and that was profoundly anti-climactic.
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Yeah. BSG received the "How I met your mother"s of endings.
The characterisation of the characters in the final episode was one that could have made sense in the pilot. But was wildly different than from the characters these person became to be in the last several years.
Also "god did it" is a pretty lame "answer" to narrative mysteries (see also: "Lost" ending).
And then it didn't even explain anything. They could have put god in there if they really wanted to do but STILL at least give some answers (e.g. was Kara an angel? A prophet? A Cylon? A cylon angel?). "Just 'cause" is a pretty shitty answer after years of build up & teasing of a resolution.
Also, humans throwing away their technology and spaceships into the sun makes NO sense for a series about wars and resource conflicts.
It really only works if you want to work backwards from the ending (they are our ancestors), but don't have the balls for a dark ending (Cylons win & through out humans into the wilderness without technology).
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER ENDING.
The characterisation of the characters in the final episode was one that could have made sense in the pilot. But was wildly different than from the characters these person became to be in the last several years.
Also "god did it" is a pretty lame "answer" to narrative mysteries (see also: "Lost" ending).
And then it didn't even explain anything. They could have put god in there if they really wanted to do but STILL at least give some answers (e.g. was Kara an angel? A prophet? A Cylon? A cylon angel?). "Just 'cause" is a pretty shitty answer after years of build up & teasing of a resolution.
Also, humans throwing away their technology and spaceships into the sun makes NO sense for a series about wars and resource conflicts.
It really only works if you want to work backwards from the ending (they are our ancestors), but don't have the balls for a dark ending (Cylons win & through out humans into the wilderness without technology).
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH BETTER ENDING.
This is somehow the one episode ending I still have very vividly & emotionally in my mind, a decade later. It's dark as fuck. But imo would have worked character- & plot-wise reasonably well as a finale.
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IMO this is for me just a plot hole at this point. The idea of the "real" Earth being a nuclear wasteland & them giving "our" Earth the name for hope came obviously later & created this inconsistency in retrospect. But imo was totally worth it.
Funnily - BSG is a show where I think the ending fucked up - but I still absolutely love the show. Because the show itself is more than the ending or it's mystery.
Unlike GoT or some other shows it doesn't invalidate what came before. Hell the finale still works reasonably well as an ending. Just not a "great" one which it deserved.
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Also.... Spoilers everyone for a decade old show
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Yeah, overall I liked the show. I just wish there was a little more cohesion towards the end.
No, it makes sense to abandon it, they'd pretty much used everything up and can't actually make anything new.
If you reduced the population of Earth to 50k random people that tiny number isn't going to have the knowledge or ability to restart a single major industry, let alone an entire technological civilization. They were always destined to be subsistence farmers within a generation, might as well burn the ships, because you can't go back anyway.
I'm sticking with my view that there was a faction of the colonists (possibly led by Hoshi) who refused to go along with the order to abandon their technology. They settled on their own parcel of land on Earth...
...which became known as the continent of Atlantis.
...which became known as the continent of Atlantis.
I liked 'Masks'.
Me too.
"Masks" is a Brent Spiner tour de force and a good episode and I'll hear nothing to the contrary.
"Masks" was a superb episode! So many great things about it. (Which I have detailed mutiple times across multiple threads through multiple years.)
Masaka is waking, and she don't like no critics.
They all looked like that in Season 7.
lol, ouch
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