What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Being a mix of Kim Hunter and Hunter Biden recently, I too recommend positive splittage.
Fortunately now, my current username is once again..........oh,
Fortunately now, my current username is once again..........oh,
Here's my controversial take, "The Borg" aren't the greatest foe of the UFP / StarFleet IMO.
It's Species 8472. They have the ability to disguise themselves as any other Humanoid.
Basically the aspect of Changelings that we fear most.
The only way to figure out that they are Species 8472 in disguise is via Micro-Cellular Scan.
Not exactly a convenient way to ID a potential infiltrator.
Their Biology makes them immune to traditional Borg assimilation.
It took modified Borg Nano-Probes to create a viable Bio-Weapon to stop them.
Their bodies have natural regeneration capability, even when near death.
If any of Species 8472 cells enter a regular Humanoids Body, it will devour it very quickly thanks to it's ferocious immune system.
They're so durable that they can withstand most weapons fire that would be considered "Lethal" to most regular Humanoids.
They're ~ 3 meters tall, Tri-Pedal, and have enough strength to rip people's limbs off, or rip through bulk heads.
They don't need air to breathe, can survive in the vacuum of space, and can cling onto the side of any vessel or surface like Spider-man.
Their Bodies natural Bio-Electric Field allows them to naturally "Block Sensors", "Prevent Transporter Locks", & "Penetrate Force Fields".
Those are what most folks in the Trek World depend on.
Their species seems to be naturally Telepathic, and even regular Humanoid Telepaths have a hard time communicating with them to the point it's stressful.
Their ships only take 9 vessels to combine powers to become a "Planet Killer".
We only have a "Cease-Fire" verbal agreement with them.
Who knows how long that "Cease-Fire" agreement can hold out over the long term.
Their vessels can appear out of a Quantum Singularity from Fluidic Space, that could potentially be anywhere in our realm should they choose to figure out how to open them with relative accuracy to our Dimension.
Currently, the accuracy of the Quantum Singularities opening it's kind of random, but should they choose to figure out how to make it precise, they can pop out of anywhere, form the Planet Killer Formation, and Genocide "Any Planet with a significant population that they are angry or fearful of".
Given that the current Borg are INCREDIBLY NERFED and near extinction in the Prime Universe, Species 8472 presents a far greater potential threat IMO.
The reason the Borg are NERFED in the Prime Universe if for these reason:
1) Species 8472's war against the Borg had them destroy "Hundreds of Borg Planets", that can be countless Drones & Vessels obliterated
2) Admiral & Captain Kathryn Janeways destruction of the "Borg Transwarp Conduit Network" + "introduction of the Neurolytic Pathogen" into the Borg Collective left them seperated, disconnected.
Without the "Borg Transwarp Conduit Network", they weren't able to cross the galaxy so easily anymore and the Borg Drones were all disconnected from each other and had a Cybernetic Pathogen to deal with.
The Borg Queen lost contact with the vast majority of the Borg Collective before Janeways Gambit took place and succeeded.
Luckily the crews of the Enterprise-D & USS Titan prevented that from happening with their actions.
Hopefully, StarFleet learns that Massive Networking of Everything is also a HUGE technical Vulnerability in terms of Op-Sec.
Luckily I think in the future, limited LANs (Local Area Networks) are the norm and Cyber-Security will be increased so that it's not as easy to infect everything and take ships or people over.
Also, no more shortcuts with Transporters, that is a Op-Sec vulnerability that got exploited, so what if you have to spend more memory and power to make sure everybody's atoms are exactly where they are, DO IT!
That means any more Borg Stories will be with small remnants of Borg instead of the Mighty Collective.
But the aftermath of the Borg Empire falling could lead to many interesting stories with off-shoot factions along with the Jurati Borg Cooperative and the newly freed Borg from the Artifact.
This is not counting any Borg from Parallel Universes.
It's Species 8472. They have the ability to disguise themselves as any other Humanoid.
Basically the aspect of Changelings that we fear most.
The only way to figure out that they are Species 8472 in disguise is via Micro-Cellular Scan.
Not exactly a convenient way to ID a potential infiltrator.
Their Biology makes them immune to traditional Borg assimilation.
It took modified Borg Nano-Probes to create a viable Bio-Weapon to stop them.
Their bodies have natural regeneration capability, even when near death.
If any of Species 8472 cells enter a regular Humanoids Body, it will devour it very quickly thanks to it's ferocious immune system.
They're so durable that they can withstand most weapons fire that would be considered "Lethal" to most regular Humanoids.
They're ~ 3 meters tall, Tri-Pedal, and have enough strength to rip people's limbs off, or rip through bulk heads.
They don't need air to breathe, can survive in the vacuum of space, and can cling onto the side of any vessel or surface like Spider-man.
Their Bodies natural Bio-Electric Field allows them to naturally "Block Sensors", "Prevent Transporter Locks", & "Penetrate Force Fields".
Those are what most folks in the Trek World depend on.
Their species seems to be naturally Telepathic, and even regular Humanoid Telepaths have a hard time communicating with them to the point it's stressful.
Their ships only take 9 vessels to combine powers to become a "Planet Killer".
We only have a "Cease-Fire" verbal agreement with them.
Who knows how long that "Cease-Fire" agreement can hold out over the long term.
Their vessels can appear out of a Quantum Singularity from Fluidic Space, that could potentially be anywhere in our realm should they choose to figure out how to open them with relative accuracy to our Dimension.
Currently, the accuracy of the Quantum Singularities opening it's kind of random, but should they choose to figure out how to make it precise, they can pop out of anywhere, form the Planet Killer Formation, and Genocide "Any Planet with a significant population that they are angry or fearful of".
Given that the current Borg are INCREDIBLY NERFED and near extinction in the Prime Universe, Species 8472 presents a far greater potential threat IMO.
The reason the Borg are NERFED in the Prime Universe if for these reason:
1) Species 8472's war against the Borg had them destroy "Hundreds of Borg Planets", that can be countless Drones & Vessels obliterated
2) Admiral & Captain Kathryn Janeways destruction of the "Borg Transwarp Conduit Network" + "introduction of the Neurolytic Pathogen" into the Borg Collective left them seperated, disconnected.
Without the "Borg Transwarp Conduit Network", they weren't able to cross the galaxy so easily anymore and the Borg Drones were all disconnected from each other and had a Cybernetic Pathogen to deal with.
The Borg Queen lost contact with the vast majority of the Borg Collective before Janeways Gambit took place and succeeded.
3) The fact that the Borg Queen had to rely on a Multi-Decade long "Hail Mary" plot to use subterfuge to create a new organically linked collective shows how weak they've become.
Luckily the crews of the Enterprise-D & USS Titan prevented that from happening with their actions.
Hopefully, StarFleet learns that Massive Networking of Everything is also a HUGE technical Vulnerability in terms of Op-Sec.
Luckily I think in the future, limited LANs (Local Area Networks) are the norm and Cyber-Security will be increased so that it's not as easy to infect everything and take ships or people over.
Also, no more shortcuts with Transporters, that is a Op-Sec vulnerability that got exploited, so what if you have to spend more memory and power to make sure everybody's atoms are exactly where they are, DO IT!
That means any more Borg Stories will be with small remnants of Borg instead of the Mighty Collective.
But the aftermath of the Borg Empire falling could lead to many interesting stories with off-shoot factions along with the Jurati Borg Cooperative and the newly freed Borg from the Artifact.
This is not counting any Borg from Parallel Universes.
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Whenever the Federation comes out ahead (I.e. survives) a full-scale military conflict with the Klingon Empire, it’s always circumstantial: somebody makes a backroom deal with the prospective Chancellor; advanced aliens intervene; negotiations end the war — basically, it’s always because something other than a big military victory occurred. This is fortunate — because in a straight-up head-to-head war fought through to the end, the Klingons will probably win. We’ve seen at least three examples where, before something else happened to end the conflict, the war was going badly for the Federation (the 2250s war, the 24th-century war and the alternate-universe war in “Yesterday’s Enterprise”; we’ve no idea who was “ahead” in “Errand of Mercy” so I’ll let that one lie). With their cultural focus on war, they are understandably better at warfare than the Federation is, at least over the long term. One might reasonably argue that the Klingons are the Sparta to the Federation’s Athens. (I do not say that in admiration.)
I am sorry for everything AFTER THEY MADE SPOCK AND NUMBER ONE SING MAJOR GENERAL IN A TURBO
I hate Star Trek now
I hate Star Trek now
Not entirely untrue. The carcass is sometimes delicious though.
Lewd.
I liked that short, it was fun.
Jericho was a badass and the crew threw their toys out the pram because they actually had to do some hard work and wear regulation uniform. I think this was the only episode I hated the TNG crew for not acting like starfleet officers and instead like spoilt children, Riker especially!
While I don't go all the way to "The only real man in Starfleet" that seems to pop up from time to time the issue wasn't if he was a good or bad captain (he was at least alright) it was how the TNG crew responded to him.
Imagine:
Picard: "Acknowledged. Commander Riker will conduct a manual docking. Picard out."
Riker: Sir? Do you have any idea how risky that is? The crew is tired and out of practice. If anything goes wrong we're completely out of range of repair. Even your android thinks it's a bad idea.
I was kind of annoyed that
Prodigy made him a rubber stamp adversary. (Has it been six months yet?)
Also Jelico made Troi wear the space suit (at Sirtis' request). About darn time.
The last time I rewatched “Chain of Command” I was struck by how much of a petulant brat Riker was. I was totally team Jellico. While blunt and not terribly personable, he was professional and no grumpier than Picard in the first couple of seasons.
It was also about time somebody told Troi that catsuits and cleavage weren’t really the most appropriate look for a senior officer on the bridge.
It was also about time somebody told Troi that catsuits and cleavage weren’t really the most appropriate look for a senior officer on the bridge.
Each subsequent version of Star Trek that had their own “destroying the Enterprise” scene failed to understand why it was so emotionally impactful in ST:III.
Also, that Picard season 3 production utterly failed to understand how to treat the supposed hero ship as a character in her own right, instead heaping all that attention on the resurrected Enterprise-D, right up to robbing the Titan of her own legacy by rechristening her as the new Enterprise.
Related is my belief that it should have been the Enterprise-E being retired at Frontier Day with the Enterprise-F being revealed at the end.
Also, that Picard season 3 production utterly failed to understand how to treat the supposed hero ship as a character in her own right, instead heaping all that attention on the resurrected Enterprise-D, right up to robbing the Titan of her own legacy by rechristening her as the new Enterprise.
Related is my belief that it should have been the Enterprise-E being retired at Frontier Day with the Enterprise-F being revealed at the end.
I do love that there is the implication that Worf destroyed the E with no explanation given. Like Worf's tribble story in Trials and Tribblations. Hopefully someone won't go back and screw this one up with an "explanation".
Jellico wasn’t likable, but he was a good captain. (And hell, don’t forget that Picard projected a certain amount of seemingly intentional dislikability in the TNG pilot. Who knows if Jellico’s would have lasted either?)
Give ‘em time. It’s inevitable.
I know you posted this a while back now, but I just wanna give a big thumbs up for such an eloquent post.
Star Wars vs. Star Trek on a technical level? Ohhh I'm glad I missed that one.
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