The cinematography in Picard's Ready Room when Riker reports the findings aboard the Amargosa Observatory may be the most sumptuous set lighting I've seen in a Trek film.
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Here's a controversial opinion: The extensive use of lens flares in ST09 was a good thing, because it helps firmly ground that film's visual language in a level of stylization that had previously been absent in Trek and that absence had been needlessly artistically prohibitive.
I never noticed it until I watched BTS footage and was told "This is bad!"
Harve Bennett says, “Hold my beer.”
The whole film is pretty. But using all of those windows on the D to motivate "natural" light is just wonderful. I remember seeing it the first time and thinking "Why is everything that color?" Then I realized what it was. And THEN they blew up the star so you could see the light change! Swoon!
They didn't know what to do with it in Generations either. The TV series would have never handled such a critical development for Data in such a cavalier, offhand manner.
The refurbished six-foot model in Generations with the reduced bloom of the nacelles and deflectors really is the best the Enterprise-D ever looked. All those swooping pans and dynamic camera passes really avoid the pedestrian angles and all-too-static model work of the series. One of the great ironies of Star Trek is they FINALLY figure out how to make the Enterprise-D look good just as they decide to kill her off
(I'm not wild about the crashlanding sequence though. I appreciate that for the era it's a remarkable technical achievement, but it does feel a bit Tracy Island now.)
Especially as it plowed into the planet!
Seriously, watching it again, that looked crazy real. I really felt it.
When Picard talks to Troi about his brother and nephew too.
The refurbished six-foot model in Generations with the reduced bloom of the nacelles and deflectors really is the best the Enterprise-D ever looked. All those swooping pans and dynamic camera passes really avoid the pedestrian angles and all-too-static model work of the series. One of the great ironies of Star Trek is they FINALLY figure out how to make the Enterprise-D look good just as they decide to kill her off
(I'm not wild about the crashlanding sequence though. I appreciate that for the era it's a remarkable technical achievement, but it does feel a bit Tracy Island now.)
the update of the bridge has always been one of my favorite things about the E-D refurbishment for the movie. It finally looks like a proper command center for a ship of its size and importance.
I think it goes slightly too far in the opposite direction from the often-too-bare look the TV series had, and makes it look a little cramped. They should have moved the walls out slightly, or recessed the stations at the side. Something like one of these:
The GENERATIONS bridge was very much inspired by "Yesterday's Enterprise". So much so, that during one of the explosions on the bridge, you can see someone wearing the uniform from that episode. (The kind with the silver... thing going around the belt and chest. I don't know how to post a picture here of what I am describing.)
The refurbished six-foot model in Generations with the reduced bloom of the nacelles and deflectors really is the best the Enterprise-D ever looked. All those swooping pans and dynamic camera passes really avoid the pedestrian angles and all-too-static model work of the series. One of the great ironies of Star Trek is they FINALLY figure out how to make the Enterprise-D look good just as they decide to kill her off
I totally agree with this. She looked absolutely gorgeous in GEN, and the larger 6-ft model was always the best. The smaller model they employed later in the series was ugly and unnecessarily bumpy. It looked terrible compared to the footage shot for “Encounter at Farpoint” with the original model.
Totally agree. They probably got away with in when the show originally aired in SD, but HD really makes the four foot model look…well, like a model some fan had cobbled together at the weekend. It loses all sense of scale when you see the underside and the awkward grooving.
Not necessarily. I remember as a kid noticing the much increased hull detail on the 4-foot model for the first time in "Yesterday's Enterprise", even on the tiny portable CRT TV I had in my bedroom, and thinking it was some sort of clever decals applied to the filming model to suggest that the ship had extra armour in the wrong timeline, since it's referred to as a "battleship" and a "ship of war". Alas, it was not to be...
Same. It was quite noticeable, first run.
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