What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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They actually have the scene in the novel. It's a bit gruesome. You get to know the Scientists better, tho.
After years of CSI most people know the best way to do that.
I'm pretty sure Khan needed no tutoring in that area.
With a CGI cutaway?
One of my most controversial opinions: TVH is not funny. It's not a bad movie. I find it charming in a hokey kind of way, and that (even though there's this world-destroying threat in the background) it can focus on a relatively low-stakes story for most of its runtime. But I simply don't find "fish out of water" style humor where people do embarrassing things to be funny, just cringe.
Beyond was better than both of them.
I'd like this a thousand times if I could.
It's funny because a lot of the moments are slightly improved and make for a more lively performance.
Also, the biggest humor I get from TVH is the garbage men seeing the can get crushed.
Scotty and McCoy at the plexiglass factory were pretty funny too.
I don't 100% agree with this, but I partly do. TWOK, TVH, FC.... People rave about them as the best Star Trek movies. But they are the ones I rewatch the least. All these movies do what generic action movies (or a generic comedy movie in TVH's case) would do.
Like you said, it doesn't mean they're bad movies. But except for phasers and warpdrive and Kirk and Spock, there's nothing 'Star Trek' to me about them.
TVH isn't funny funny but it is a funny movie in many respects. The idea that it's Trek's "comedy film" has no basis in reality but it was designed as a more lighthearted and comedic romp after the dire plots of the two previous films and the cold feel and clinical execution of the first movie.
It's basically the movie version of "The Trouble With Tribbles(TOS)," an episode with lots of humorous moments and even physical gags but which had an underlying subplot that was threatening to cost a lot of lives. In "Tribbles" it was the Klingons poisoning the quadrotriticale. In TVH it's the Whale Probe threatening to destroy Earth's ecosystem.
It's basically the movie version of "The Trouble With Tribbles(TOS)," an episode with lots of humorous moments and even physical gags but which had an underlying subplot that was threatening to cost a lot of lives. In "Tribbles" it was the Klingons poisoning the quadrotriticale. In TVH it's the Whale Probe threatening to destroy Earth's ecosystem.
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Beyond is the only Kelvinverse film that feels remotely like Star Trek to me.
While I love all the Kelvin films, as they are very much Trek to me, I think 09 and Beyond showcase the broader teamwork aspects of Trek, while ID is more of Kirk's personal journey. It's still a good film, but not quite about 09 and Beyond. It varies though.
I'd like this a thousand times if I could.
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