What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Wow! That's quite creative and nicely strung together! I would defenitely read a comic based on that.
Have you thought about how Vulcan's destruction would impact Tuvok?
I think it was less about being insulting, more devoted to their own positions and confrontational to opposing points of view.
Deep Space Terok Nor - Formerly an orbital Federation ore processing station, the Bajoran Revolutionary Government has turned management of the station over to the Cardassians, who placed the station under the command of Gul Dukat.
Controversial Star Trek opinion, Gul Dukat was far more interesting than any of the other characters on DS9.
Or is that even controversial ?
More interesting than some. Only character I found less interesting than Bashir was his alternate universe version.
Certainly, Dukat was almost the quintessential Cardassian. I could imagine him comforting one of his seven children at the death of her pet wompet, and equally imagine him carving up an enemy with a mek'leth he found lying around.
Klingons, Romulans, even Vulcans... what you saw was usually what you got. Cardassians could surprise you.
Certainly, Dukat was almost the quintessential Cardassian. I could imagine him comforting one of his seven children at the death of her pet wompet, and equally imagine him carving up an enemy with a mek'leth he found lying around.
Klingons, Romulans, even Vulcans... what you saw was usually what you got. Cardassians could surprise you.
I treat it as a multiverse. That way Romulans can have cloaking tech in the 22nd century and it doesn't have to be explained.
That’s how I treat all of the CBS AA Trek shows (except for maybe Lower Decks). To me they take place in a different Mirror Universe than the evil one. Same timeline as the original 5 shows, just slightly different.
but as always, YMMV.
He certainly was, until they turned him into a cartoon. First a “Bajoran” then the whole Pah Wraith thing.
I thought it was kinda sad that the two best characters on DS9 were relatively minor: Quark and Garak.
But they were great.
The old tech of the Romulans and the Klingons cloaked the ship on relatively narrow band of electromagnetic spectrum, mainly visual and heat. After the Battle of Pahvo the Federation learned how to detect ships through it. It took the Romulans a decade to create a new type of cloaking device that worked on a different principle, one previously thought impossible.Still, as with Romulan cloaking tech from the previous century it wasn't seen again for a while. It may have been shelved after the 2256-57 War and the Empire didn't resurrect it again until the brief alliance with the Romulans more than a decade later. It's a dodgy theory but if the Romulan explanation works after a few years of being quiet then...hey.
The tug-of war between sensor and stealth tech is a thing in the current world, why not in the future?
I concur
The Klingon method of cloaking shown in DISCO looks to have individual parts of the hull store some sort of particle that deflects EM transmissions around the vessel. The release of said particle allows it to decloak and fire.
That's almost like the Suliban Cloak where some form of radiation is applied to the surface of the material to cloak it.
The Romulan Cloak in ENT seems to function on a slighlty different principle based on how it decloaks IMO.
That one looks like the hull is bending the EM transmissions with some probably nano sized embedded device on the surface of the hull that is applied across the entire surface.
Future methods in TNG era, the Cloak seems to be some sort of bubble that deflects EM transmissions around the vessels.
See? There you go. We came up with explanations. 
See? There you go. We came up with explanations.
You have your explanations, I have mine.
So what are your in-universe explanation for all the cloaking devices appearing earlier than what Kirk has stated.You have your explanations, I have mine.
Enterprise and Discovery take place in different timelines from TOS.
Timeline A: TOS, TAS, TMP
Timeline B: TOS movies II-VI, TNG, DS9, VOY, TNG movies
Timeline C: The Abrams films
Timeline D: Enterprise, Discovery (spun out of the events of First Contact)
Broad strokes remain relatively the same, details are different.
That's very similar to Anti-Trekker's theory, but he had 3 Time-lines.
Interesting where you decided to separate your time-lines.
Reasonable.
^ Beat me to it. It's most likely an ongoing arms race between cloaks (and peripheral shipboard-function moderation to facilitate same -- such as plasma exhaust being contained) and sensors to penetrate them.
If one wants to get really pedantic the technology seen in "Balance of Terror(TOS)" was referred to as an "invisibility screen." Even the ENT Romulan cloaking tech wasn't really described using that term if I'm remembering correctly. That could mean the principles behind 22nd and 23rd century Romulan cloaking devices were markedly different.
Maybe the earliest ones shrouded sensor signatures, like the backscatter of an F-117, and if space wasn't so dark and the distances between ships so great, if someone looked out a window they'd've seen the ship, even if they couldn't lock on... and by "BoT" it had developed into a light-bending field.
Well they did need to steal a new model in "the Enterprise Incident". So I think Romulans are always upgrading
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