Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.
Then who is four fried chickens and a Coke?
The weirdest thing about VOY is I've never seen a show jettison its original premise so quickly.
I mean, I know it was mostly due to BTS conflict - that the showrunners wanted to try something new, but UPN was risk-averse, particularly after the somewhat mixed reaction to early DS9, and just wanted TNG 2.0. But it's shocking that they spent so much time setting up the Maquis - planting the seeds in TNG's Journey's End and Preemptive Strike, and a two-parter late in Season 2 of DS9 - only to basically completely neuter any Federation/Maquis conflict past the pilot of Voyager.
This is just the most extreme example, but there are of course others - like usually downplaying the idea that there were any issues which could be cause from being far from repair/resupply, and finding various ways to include Alpha/Beta quadrant plots over time rather than explore something new.
The need of the series to have "recurring" enemies like the Kazon was also pretty head-scratching, given the ship was generally speaking traveling in a straight line across tens of thousands of light years. Alien of the week made total sense under these circumstances. I really wish that VOY had done more to flesh out the secondary crew on the ship - added more people like the Wildmans and Vorik who we would see frequently, not not every week. But if anything, the show moved away from this over time.
Kirk's a quarter pound cheeseburger.
I like the Voyager holodeck episodes. They show that the crew has actual hobbies and interests outside of work (Janeway and Gothic romance novels, Paris and retro automobiles, etc.).
@eschaton I feel like I could have written that myself. Especially the Kazon part.
As I've said often, I feel like no small part of the new Battlestar Galactica was Ron Moore's response to Voyager. "HERE'S a ship in peril and low on supplies, folks!"
I think that’s something to lay at the writer’s doors, not Mulgrew’s.
Trek producers just love an excuse to use cheap sets and props just hanging around on the Paramount back lot.
If in doubt, the Tholians did it
Enterprise was one of my favorite series in Star Trek, by far.
It’s my third, behind TOS and SNW.
Serious question: Why? And what other Star Trek do you like? I'm fascinated!
Enterprise was the first Star Trek I watched as an adult (from the beginning).
I like all of them with the exception of Picard and Discovery. I like the more down to Earth approach to humanity, showing the more savage and violent aspect of humanity - coupled with the hopeful idealism. Archer and the crew feel more like Astronauts and explorers, rather than the more militaristic approach I see Starfleet taking in the future.
If they can't respect it, then they should create their own original series. Oh, but that's hard, isn't it? And there's no built in audience for their efforts to aid in bankrolling a production. Don't think the reasons why poor writers can't respect canon aren't completely understood.
It doesn't deserve respecting. It is a tool to be used.
Also, your reply to me as a quote tag messed up.
Separate names with a comma.