What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. tesral

    tesral Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    The best Star Wars movie, and not for reason of plot, was the first, because it broke the cycle of horrible Hollyweird "message" films in favor of pure entertainment
     
  2. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    Really? I thought the message about how war just greases the wheels of industry and commerce and how the elite walk on the backs of the masses was pretty blatant.
     
  3. somebuddyX

    somebuddyX Commodore Commodore

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    There's been a lot of love for the film in the 3D community which I love.



     
  4. 1001001

    1001001 Workin' Them Angels Moderator

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    Feel free to take this to the Star Wars forum…

    :techman:
     
  5. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Commodore Commodore

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    Great to see fans of that film. Sometimes I feel like I'm going mental when I think of the disparity between my opinion of it and that of the Star Wars fans.

    Absolutely.

    To both of you, I wish we could give a post multiple likes.

    @1001001 Sorry, I posted just as you did...
     
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  6. publiusr

    publiusr Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Where TWOK TSFS and TVH worked as movies…. TMP and ST V each really need to be their own limited series, due to their scope.
     
  7. cooleddie74

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    One of the odder things TFF gave us was a pop song as part of a Star Trek movie soundtrack. Uhura's fan dance is much worse than the song to which she's dancing.

     
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  8. tesral

    tesral Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    I was a witness to the phenomena and the change in the movies that came out. Star Wars got us the Trek films, and TNG. T^he success of Wars jump started the morbid Trek franchise.
     
  9. Sci

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    How exactly is Leia using the Force to telekinetically pull herself back to the ship any different from Luke using the Force to telekinetically pull a lightsaber into his hand?

    And why wouldn't you want to see Leia use the Force to do something awesome like pull herself back onto a ship in her last moments of consciousness after being ejected into space? It's a chance to finally see Leia use the Force!
     
  10. cooleddie74

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    Yeah, this was the first time we've seen her use Force powers on any screen unless we count her sensing that Luke made it off the second Death Star alive at the end of Episode VI. She's a Skywalker and Anakin's daughter. She SHOULD be able to do more than just fire a weapon and lead people.
     
  11. Farscape One

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    Exactly my point. It's the first time we see her use Force powers of any kind, at least physical manifestations of its use. She had NO training at all, but was able to pull herself from the vacuum of space back to an airlock????

    Luke telekinetically grabbing a lightsaber is vastly different than moving yourself in the airless vacuum of space.

    We have never seen anything like that before. It completely defied belief.

    The Force is basically magic, and I can accept that, but that's a bridge too far.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    Star Trek controversial opinion: if the Enterprise is a character then it can be recast by different CGI models.
    ETA: Here's a TLJ film thread for people to moan about that film some more in...
     
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  13. Farscape One

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    Whoa, whoa... them's fightin' words, son.
     
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  14. fireproof78

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    *looks up definition of controversial* Yes...I believe that is implicit in my remarks...:vulcan:
     
  15. Farscape One

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    And that IS very controversial, since our hero ships ARE characters.

    I very much disagree here. When you swap out different CGI models, you change the essence and flavor of the ship. It's like changing Doctors or James Bonds... some basic traits are there, but each one is different and unique.

    They therefore become different characters.
     
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  16. F. King Daniel

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    At the risk of derailing things further, we see flashbacks to her Jedi training in Rise of the Skywalker.

    Back on topic, disillusioned Picard from season one of his own show is the best version of the character.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    Which is where I disagree. I don't regard ships as characters. And even if they are characters can be recast and still be in continuity.
    I'll take your word for it.
     
  18. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah I never regarded the ships as "characters" either. They are locations.
     
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  19. 1001001

    1001001 Workin' Them Angels Moderator

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    What did I just say?

    I tell people to take it to the Star Wars forum, and then right after that, you three post Star Wars content with no relation to Star Trek at all?

    There is an entire forum dedicated to Star Wars. Take it there.

    THE END
     
  20. Farscape One

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    In much the same way Baby is a character on SUPERNATURAL (for those unaware, 'Baby' is the Impala), starships are characters. They are a part of the family.

    They are not just locations. They are our traveling companions that take us to all those strange new worlds.