What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Swedish Borg

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    Maybe but no one can deliver a gazelle speech like Archer...
     
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    And that's a good thing.
     
  3. Swedish Borg

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    Adm Forrest: Archer! You really screwed things up this time!

    Archer: You know I once saw a gazelle giving birth...

    Adm Forrest: Shut up! Just shut up!!!
     
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    I'd like your explanation a lot more if it had been in the episode itself.
     
  5. Swedish Borg

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    Obviously, Picard is not an outdoorsman like Kirk.
     
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    Every experienced rider has his own saddle.
     
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    Picard likes to ride horses like Kirk.

    Edit: Ninja'd.
     
  8. Swedish Borg

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    Picard likes to ride Kirk?
     
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    Somehow, replicated saddles never taste that good.
     
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    Kirk is a horse?
     
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    Yeah, but not a very good one.

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    That saurian brandy...
     
  13. Amasov

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    I think because Data often doesn't exhibit strong emotions like anger or laughter outside of a malfunction (which was often the reason for him experiencing those emotions), he's considered to be emotionless, which I think is totally inaccurate. The fact that he even lifts an eyebrow when he finds something to be curious is an emotional response to external stimuli. The irony of it all is that I found Data to be the most emotional of the entire crew.

    You could even say the same of the EMH on Voyager. I credit Picardo for what he did with the character in making it, arguably, the best character on the show. But, early on, the people behind the scenes seem to think in order to successfully portray a character with no emotions is to make them not have a sense of humor. The doctor was annoyed almost all the time in the first few seasons of the show, which, again, is an emotion!
     
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    Kirk is a horse
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    Humor is an emotional response. Often in mentally damaged people a lack of humor is one of the primary signs of that damage.
     
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    And with good reason...
     
  17. dupersuper

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    Was the EMH ever said to be emotionless? I never got the impression that was the idea.
     
  18. Grendelsbayne

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    The EMH is explicitly intended to be a sort of copy of Zimmerman himself. His general attitude is constantly annoyed because Zimmerman is constantly annoyed. He was even openly called out for his grumpy bedside manner which is kind of the opposite of calling him emotionless.
     
  19. Swedish Borg

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    Yes, that was his state in the beginning but he evolved toward sociability after two or three seasons.
     
  20. Grendelsbayne

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    I never meant to say otherwise. The point was simply that he was intended to have a human emotional response all along. Even to the point that they explicitly based his personality on a specific human and then got frustrated by that personality's emotional responses on a regular basis. So much so, even, that Starfleet embarked on a project to make a new EMH based on the personality of someone more likable. Not so that it would have no emotions, but so that it would have better emotions.