I've read both these books and I don't consider myself bookish.
Since when does having read a book put you into the bookish category?
Since when does having read a book put you into the bookish category?
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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TOS Season 1 established Kirk was a grim, serious Starfleet Academy Cadet who focused on his studies and reading. He still loved books into the final chapter(no pun intended)of his life. Heck, in TOS his quarters had shelves full of books in antique-looking binding.
Precisely. There's explicit evidence in a later episode and in one of the films that Kirk has an interest in books and reading, and that he is aware of literary references that at least some of his fellow officers aren't. That more than clears the bar of what was in question:
another hint at Kirk being bookish
Not disagreeing about Kirk being bookish, but just because a few books were read by someone and no one else doesn't mean they are bookish.
Technical manuals and journals could be considered bookish too, particularly with how detailed they would likely need to be for starships, for instance. Scotty reads those as a leisure activity, as shown in "THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES". Why isn't he considered bookish?
There are all kinds of books. People gravitate to different types of genres. Some may love every kind, others only certain kinds and read very little of the rest.
Technical manuals and journals could be considered bookish too, particularly with how detailed they would likely need to be for starships, for instance. Scotty reads those as a leisure activity, as shown in "THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES". Why isn't he considered bookish?
There are all kinds of books. People gravitate to different types of genres. Some may love every kind, others only certain kinds and read very little of the rest.
The bar to be cleared was to find even just a hint of Kirk being bookish after "Where No Man...". It wasn't to find irrefutable evidence of it. So....
What on this board does?
I think it establishes Kirk as serious about his work and studies. That's about the extent of it. "Bookishness" is relative.
Well, take Picard for example, we often see him with a book in his hands even on Risa the last place you want to bring a book to. That makes him a more credible candidate than Kirk for bookishness. Hell, even Archer is seen more often with a book than Kirk!!
I think you're reaching dude.
1. TNG had 100 more episodes to establish minor character traits of their characters, as well as having a much slower, more methodical (ponderous) pace.
2. When Mitchell has his throw-away line in WNMHGB about Kirk being a "stack of books with legs," I always took it as Kirk being heavily into his studies, not that he is a guy who cares about literature and Shakespeare. It's not to say that he doesn't care....but I don't think that's what Mitchell's comment was implying.
3. Kirk is too busy being awesome and getting shit done to be spending time wandering the corridors sipping tea and reading a romance novel.
3. It doesn't really matter.
Well, we must dissect every facet. Never mind the fact that Kirk was a man of duty. He took it extremely seriously, and abided by the rules as best he could. Being a studious man clearly meant someone who was fully engaged in his studies, in getting his work done, and doing the best work he could do. It doesn't mean he sits around with Moby Dick and a brandy.
Maybe but no one can deliver a gazelle speech like Archer...
And that's a good thing.
Adm Forrest: Archer! You really screwed things up this time!
Archer: You know I once saw a gazelle giving birth...
Adm Forrest: Shut up! Just shut up!!!
Archer: You know I once saw a gazelle giving birth...
Adm Forrest: Shut up! Just shut up!!!
I'd like your explanation a lot more if it had been in the episode itself.
Obviously, Picard is not an outdoorsman like Kirk.
Every experienced rider has his own saddle.
Picard likes to ride horses like Kirk.
Edit: Ninja'd.
Edit: Ninja'd.
Picard likes to ride Kirk?
Somehow, replicated saddles never taste that good.
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