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Thats comparable to one of the more realistic episodes of TWWW.
 
Whedon had a pretty good track record at keeping a series well scripted as we saw with Buffy, the odds of it being the next big thing were good.

Faux likes to stab SF fans in the balls, I don't watch them anymore.
fox had commitment issues with sci fi, definately
Aliennation: 1 season
Space Above and Beyond: 1 season
Terra Nova: 1 season


It can take time to develop a following for a sci fi series that doesn't have an established franchise.
 
In a way I'm glad we got what we got and no more. It will always be great because it never got much of a sophomore chance at disappointment. Maybe it would have been the next big franchise. That's ok.
You know a lot of the fandom would have begun hating on it the moment Big Plot started happening. A lot of the appeal was the “happy little found family” aspect — so of course when Certain Things happened in Serenity, it wasn’t uncommon to see them categorized as bad writing, i.e. things the commentator didn’t want to have happened.

Were any revival to happen today, of course, that would happen as soon as the first preview was released, regardless of content.
 
You know a lot of the fandom would have begun hating on it the moment Big Plot started happening. A lot of the appeal was the “happy little found family” aspect — so of course when Certain Things happened in Serenity, it wasn’t uncommon to see them categorized as bad writing, i.e. things the commentator didn’t want to have happened.

Were any revival to happen today, of course, that would happen as soon as the first preview was released, regardless of content.
I agree. The show will be in at "forever young" mode, where it can't do any wrong. Sure there's tropes in there we might not do now. The Misunderstood But Wise Sex Worker. The wierdness of the solar sytstem (how many livable worlds/moons did it have again?). But it's of its time, and its great. And it will be remembered greatly. Supernatural dragged on for 15 seasons and I think it might take another 15 for anyone to miss it.
 
Except in Rocks and Shoals... and that was while they were still alive.
I mean, yeah, exactly. It was while the Founders were still alive. You're proving my point that we never saw what would happen after they died! :lol:

But OK, let's consider Keevan's betrayal. It occurred because he knew he was leading a lost cause, since their ketracel-white was bound to run out before they could expect assistance. In a continued war, it would be foolish for the Federation not to expect the Dominion to prioritize and prolong production of ketracel-white. The conditions under which the betrayal occurred would not exist on that scale until all production of ketracel-white was interrupted and the exhaustion of all stockpiles was imminent.

@Citiprime was kind enough to provide us chapter and verse for the Federation's appraisal of how the war would unfold, going forward from the loss of the Founders. The Federation would be required to suffer huge losses, and even then there was no guarantee of victory.
 
I agree. The show will be in at "forever young" mode, where it can't do any wrong. Sure there's tropes in there we might not do now. The Misunderstood But Wise Sex Worker. The wierdness of the solar sytstem (how many livable worlds/moons did it have again?). But it's of its time, and its great. And it will be remembered greatly. Supernatural dragged on for 15 seasons and I think it might take another 15 for anyone to miss it.
Certainly. Though I actually think the weird multiple-star system is (or should have been) a feature, not a bug (even if they didn’t actually work it out until after the show had aired, it’s still an interesting setup in its own right).
 
You know a lot of the fandom would have begun hating on it the moment Big Plot started happening. A lot of the appeal was the “happy little found family” aspect — so of course when Certain Things happened in Serenity, it wasn’t uncommon to see them categorized as bad writing, i.e. things the commentator didn’t want to have happened.

Were any revival to happen today, of course, that would happen as soon as the first preview was released, regardless of content.
I can freely admit that I am one of the people you are describing. I was a huge fan of the show, I launched the wikia back in the day (when that was still a thing), but hearing about the plans for season two in the years since so soured me on the whole thing I haven't been able to go back to it because when I have I see the ways that was already being foreshadowed.
 
Certainly. Though I actually think the weird multiple-star system is (or should have been) a feature, not a bug (even if they didn’t actually work it out until after the show had aired, it’s still an interesting setup in its own right).
The show fails to explain how they're getting to all the different planets. The first Guardians film gets away with the same thing. As if to say, no biggie we'll just float there. At impulse.

When you're hired as a franchise writer they should make you do homework. Including worksheets about speed of light math. But no one's going to do that. Mainstream people think the point of warp speed is "they were in a hurry".
 
I can freely admit that I am one of the people you are describing. I was a huge fan of the show, I launched the wikia back in the day (when that was still a thing), but hearing about the plans for season two in the years since so soured me on the whole thing I haven't been able to go back to it because when I have I see the ways that was already being foreshadowed.
Sorry! 🥴
 
I suppose my controversial opinion of the day is going to be that I don't watch Star Trek, or indeed any sci-fi, for the science.

Some people care about that. Good for them! I mean that sincerely. I know there have been many real-life scientists inspired by Trek and I think that's great. I also think that if you're watching shows like Trek or Firefly (which I liked but didn't love) looking for hard sci-fi, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's just never been what they're about.

The Expanse has a reputation for being relatively scientifically accurate, though of course I'm not equipped to judge.
 
The Expanse has a reputation for being relatively scientifically accurate, though of course I'm not equipped to judge.
Till it deals with Epstein Drive (wow.. I get to use that word in a wholesome context!) or alien tech. I have always appreciated that, barring those things, it tried to play by the rules of physics. Like communication delays, body changes over centuries of low-g, what happens when things suddenly stop their relative motion to one another (people get pulped), firefights without magic energy shields.

I also l like magic inexplicable level tech in sci fi, the chance to imagine and enjoy what the story is telling. I do appreciate it when shows at least try to follow their own rules, and Trek has never had much in the way of consistent rules to begin with, and 60 years on, It's not going to start trying.
 
Haha, nothing you need to be sorry for, I don't feel disparaged by what you said. I don't know if I would call it bad writing (I'm guessing that's the part that led to this apology) though... Maybe I would! Inara's fate in the planned season two, for example... No matter how well written, there is something cheap and very of it's time about it, doing that in order to motivate change in the male lead.
 
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