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There was a magic evil space angel that made them believe whatever it wanted and it killed two people because of hallucinations. The episode has many faults but are you suggesting that additional scenes showing that the angel was circumventing otherwise carefully followed standard safety protocols would have improved its credibility?

Surely when Sulu was hallucinating space knives he should have double checked other instruments that could have shown him that the viewer was malfunctioning. They have those redundancies for a reason, mister.

I don't know why you think this requires arguing over, but I'm sick of getting drawn into petty fights over opinions, so I'm not going to participate.
 
Surely when Sulu was hallucinating space knives he should have double checked other instruments that could have shown him that the viewer was malfunctioning. They have those redundancies for a reason, mister.

Funny thing about the space knives....when I was a kid, I lived quite a bit away from the tv station that aired Trek on the UHF channel so that, like a lot of us, I had to deal with a lot of tv snow. Like...a lot. So for well over a decade (probably until I got my first VCR copy) I couldn't tell those were actual knives. I thought it was some vortex or tunneling effect (sort of like the later wormhole from TMP).

I was pretty let down when I saw a pristine copy of the ep and they were literally....knives. Like actual knives. I was like "What the fuck?! How is that scary? They are literally knives in space!"

I still discover new stuff in Star Trek because of that tv snow and having not seen a lot of the eps since the 90's.
 
Funny thing about the space knives....when I was a kid, I lived quite a bit away from the tv station that aired Trek on the UHF channel so that, like a lot of us, I had to deal with a lot of tv snow. Like...a lot. So for well over a decade (probably until I got my first VCR copy) I couldn't tell those were actual knives. I thought it was some vortex or tunneling effect (sort of like the later wormhole from TMP).

I was pretty let down when I saw a pristine copy of the ep and they were literally....knives. Like actual knives. I was like "What the fuck?! How is that scary? They are literally knives in space!"

I still discover new stuff in Star Trek because of that tv snow and having not seen a lot of the eps since the 90's.

Not everything can be the lady who had Charlie Evans take away her face. :D
 
Not everything can be the lady who had Charlie Evans take away her face. :D

Yeah, that one still holds up today. As for the space knives, I know Sulu was under the influence but...they're knives...in space. How is that not Sulu's thinking? Even worse, what were the producers thinking when it came time to come up with something to freak Sulu out?

Guy 1: "I got it...knives in space!"

Guy 2: "But wouldn't Sulu just think how ridiculous that is?"

Guy 1: "No."

Guy 2: "Okay then"
 
Yeah, that one still holds up today. As for the space knives, I know Sulu was under the influence but...they're knives...in space. How is that not Sulu's thinking? Even worse, what were the producers thinking when it came time to come up with something to freak Sulu out?

Guy 1: "I got it...knives in space!"

Guy 2: "But wouldn't Sulu just think how ridiculous that is?"

Guy 1: "No."

Guy 2: "Okay then"

I know third season gets a lot of... grief.* But there ARE reasons for that.

* Thank you SFA for making me self conscious about swearing!
 
the main villain is a defense lawyer who failed to get his client off, nor anyone else
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...There is near universal agreement that Wrath of Khan is not only the best Star Trek movie ever made, but also one of the greatest science fiction movies ever made. That movie re-used a villain from the TV series and made significant use of stock footage from the previous film, far more than Generations did...
Can i sneak in a question about The Wrath of Khan movie?-
When Chekov and another crewman beamed down to that hostile 'sandstorm' type planet and were captured by Khan and his followers and taken to their cargo container home, why did the two refuse to answer Khan's simple question about why they'd beamed down?
No wonder Khan was annoyed and put them wriggly things in their ears..:)
 
Can i sneak in a question about The Wrath of Khan movie?-
When Chekov and another crewman beamed down to that hostile 'sandstorm' type planet and were captured by Khan and his followers and taken to their cargo container home, why did the two refuse to answer Khan's simple question about why they'd beamed down?
No wonder Khan was annoyed and put them wriggly things in their ears..:)

Because it was none of Khan's business why they beamed down. Chekov made it crystal clear that Khan was an enemy. So he and Terrell weren't going to tell him shit.
 
Time to embrace the truth. There are no bad episodes of TOS! Some are just better than others. Same with TOS movies!
 
Hmm, people should realize they are hallucinating because their hallucinations aren't logical. Knives in space are just dumb.
Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. If it were so easy to will away hallucinations, people wouldn't need medical treatment for psychotic episodes, schizophrenia, etc.


Space knives were dumb, but we're not psychologically compromised*. Asking us to put up with it, as it dragged on and on, that was dumb. What a waste of an episode!

* — Unless we are. :shifty:
 
Time to embrace the truth. There are no bad episodes of TOS! Some are just better than others. Same with TOS movies!
Roddenberry didn't seem to like "The Cage" too much, because he said in a "Making Star Trek" -type book that he tried to be "too proud" with it but I'm not sure what he meant exactly, but at a guess i'd say he'd have preferred chunks of it to be left on the cutting room floor.
Later in the same book there was a "Notes for scriptwriters" chapter which said "We maintain a fast pace", so perhaps he'd decided The Cage was too slow-moving and wanted things speeded up from then on.
 
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