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In the UK there is a small class of parents sending their Reception age four/five year old children in nappies because why have not bothered to potty train them. I doubt they have taught them to read or even count up to 20, giving the poor teachers extra work to do.
In the UK they want to lower the voting age to 16. I would raise it to 21 and make it compulsory to teach in schools how the political system works.
I'm at the point after working with parents and teachers and kids struggling with behaviors that I think parenting and developmental tasks plus how the government works.
 
I love 'The Orville'.

So do I. It gives me the same feelings I have when watching any good Trek show. What could be more Trek than that. Forget all the pointless debate about canon and whatnots. Trek is great when it makes you feel good and feel positive about humanity. You have other positive feeling shows of course but very few of them are positive about humanity's future.
 
I get positive feelings about humanity's future watching Night Court too.

Finding positivity is as much audience attitude as story.
Then, definitely check out One Piece.

We need more positive media today. It's definitely lacking. And we need more music in our movies. I was watching some 90s movies a little while back, and I was surprised by how much more music was in movies in the 90s. Check out 10 Things I Hate About You.
 
I get positive feelings about humanity's future watching Night Court too.

Finding positivity is as much audience attitude as story.

But Trek is also positive in that it says humans will have a great future. The world won't end and humanity won't die off and be forgotten. Granted that might not be realistic but Trek isn't really about being realistic.
 
But Trek is also positive in that it says humans will have a great future. The world won't end and humanity won't die off and be forgotten. Granted that might not be realistic but Trek isn't really about being realistic.
Yes, Trek is optimistic about our survival.

But, I've been optimistic about the future before I discovered Trek so I'll grant a complete bias here on my part.
 
I'd like to think "humanity not dying off and being forgotten" doesn't fall into the column of "not being realistic." Way to cheer up the thread, Monkey Man.

:lol:
 
Optimist.

And in truth there is a movement that wants to raise the voting age to twenty-six.

Furthermore reading is in a growing number of schools till third grade.

So, by nineth grade the nineth graders have trouble reading at grade level.

The prime beginning time is four or five years old.

This is known as "real trouble ".

How do I know?

I have a friend who teaches nineth and tenth, they are seeing the results.

Furthermore the students aren't being taught history...

AMERICAN REVOLUTION?? NO SUCH THING HAPPENED.

Then they have to explain...

Thank you California...

Who do you think sets the standards?

And why do you think that scripts are so bad? Because they can't write. Because very few teachers are actually left. Babysitters? Yes.
Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. When I was in school in California, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you describe. I started reading chapter books the summer between kindergarten and 1st grade (age 5 1/2). Some basics of American and California history were taught in middle school, 7th and 8th grades, but the most comprehensive American history was a year-long course in 10th grade. (Thank you, Mr. Bross, for telling it like it was even when it wasn't pretty.)

I see social promotion as the biggest problem, especially in math. If a student is shaky in multiplication and division they won't really be able to do fractions and common denominators, and if you can't do fractions and common denominators algebra is going to be a big problem and any math beyond that. And a lot of science depends heavily on math. If the student can't do it, the schools should be getting them additional help, not passing them along and making it somebody else's problem.

The teachers do work hard. But classes are large and opportunities to help someone who's behind are finite

The state sets standards, but it's up to the school district what curriculum to choose and how to carry them out. That means a mediocre school district is free to set mediocre standards.
 
But Trek is also positive in that it says humans will have a great future. The world won't end and humanity won't die off and be forgotten. Granted that might not be realistic but Trek isn't really about being realistic.
Thing is, Star Trek's future is only optimistic in the long term. In the short term, Star Trek says our immediate future is going to suck donkey balls what with nuclear war only less than twenty years away.
 
I see social promotion as the biggest problem, especially in math. If a student is shaky in multiplication and division they won't really be able to do fractions and common denominators, and if you can't do fractions and common denominators algebra is going to be a big problem and any math beyond that. And a lot of science depends heavily on math. If the student can't do it, the schools should be getting them additional help, not passing them along and making it somebody else's problem.
And colleges will accept students who somehow got through the entire pre-college educational system without learning any math at all.
 
Thing is, Star Trek's future is only optimistic in the long term. In the short term, Star Trek says our immediate future is going to suck donkey balls what with nuclear war only less than twenty years away.

I know. The good thing though is the shows skip through most of that and shows us the good times. When you watch a episode you get to spend time in this magical future were we have solved most of our problems. People are nice and actually care about things and in TNG problems can be solved with Picard giving a speech or people listening to reason.

TO be fair TNG is probably the most steeped in Roddenberry future and that is likely why I became a TNG fan first. I was in high school and feeling depressed. No friends. It was a nice place to mentally escape to for 42 minutes. I still value that aspect during times when I feel bad. Whenever I feel sad in life one my first instincts is to either go watch Star Trek or listen to Weird Al to feel better.
 
And colleges will accept students who somehow got through the entire pre-college educational system without learning any math at all.
In a world in which high schools give passing grades in math to students who don't know any, what could colleges do? Maybe require a minimum score on the math SAT. Still, that's chasing the problem long after it should have been fixed in elementary and middle schools.

edit to add: come to think of it, my kid's college requires their students to take a math placement test before letting them enroll in their college math class or classes, or lots of the science classes. Taking at least some math is a college graduation requirement even for students who ace the placement test.
 
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