What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[137th Gebirg]

Sadly, we are gonna wake up one day and he’s gonna be gone. Some way or another.

How that’s later rather than sooner though. A 100 year old Shatner would be awesome.

I don't know whether to "like" or "sad" that post, so I'm going to choose to stay positive and "like" it for the 100-year old awesome statement.

 

[Tomalak]

I'll be sad when Shatner passes, but he'll have lived an incredible life that should be celebrated, not mourned.

 

[knightgrace]

But why did Kirk have that other guy fight Khan for him when trying to stop him? Even had the guy wear a uniform that looked like his.

Because he wasn't completely stupid?

Here I thought it was the wrinkles in the face.

Cause Anson Mount doesn't have nearly as many wrinkles as Shatner when he was 52.

Both have Gray Hair.

I found my first Grey hair when I was twenty-four. I was completely Grey by thirty-five. Big frigging deal, I am now 65, have bus driver's arm, and for the most part am fine.

 

[Nyotarules]

There aren't that many Centenarian's IRL compared to the rest of the Human Population.
Current Estimates Globally are 935,000 Centenarians in 2024.


Interesting how Shatner looks much older when he was 52 y/o in TWoK.

Where as Anson Mount is currently 52 y/o and looks very spry for his age.

Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation tend to look older compared to their Gen X counterparts

 

[JonnyQuest037]

The point is that Kirk "feels" old, not that he objectively is old. He feels useless and directionless, lacking a purpose. They never actually mention his age in the film.

In Nicholas Meyer's original screenplay, Kirk was turning 49. Shatner requested that they don't mention a specific age, because he had the actor's natural concern that once he played 49 onscreen, he could never play younger after that.

 

[Commander Troi]

50 can be really rough because we tend to see it as a milestone age. Now that I'm 57, I realize how much more my health and attitude are in my control. It's made a difference. But I won't say it's easy. I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Then the line would have been "that overgrown Boy Scout you used to tell me about."
And "overgrown Boy Scout" is David's impression, not Carol's (the movie is explicit about that.) There had to be some interaction for him to form it.

No, not at all. People, especially people who are close, don't qualify what they've been told so precisely when they speak to each other. It was completely clear that David had formed an impression based on tidbits or other recountings and things that Carol had told him about Jim, and that that impression was off base. Perhaps the reason was because Carol had been selective; perhaps David had made assumptions because of his own biases, especially in regards to the fact that Jim was in Starfleet, cf "scientists have always been pawns of the military". "Boy Scout" was David's impression, not anything Carol had said explicitly.

 

[Nyotarules]

50 can be really rough because we tend to see it as a milestone age. Now that I'm 57, I realize how much more my health and attitude are in my control. It's made a difference. But I won't say it's easy. I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.

The aches and pain and memory blanks are real but better to be past 50 than the alternative. I buried friends in who never saw 34 years old.
Looking for glasses that are on ones face is my favourite old thing lol

 

[Jayson1]

50 can be really rough because we tend to see it as a milestone age. Now that I'm 57, I realize how much more my health and attitude are in my control. It's made a difference. But I won't say it's easy. I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.

Let's not forget we older folks also get the perks of complaining about young people and knowing with certainty we are correct!

 

[FormerLurker]

I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.

Some did. It actually wasn't common. Most would retire at 60/65 and live into their 70s. As fewer and fewer children die, life expectancy increases. The only grandparent of mine that didn't live into their 80s died in a car accident, and both of my parents lived into their 80s, my dad almost to 90.