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But why did Kirk have that other guy fight Khan for him when trying to stop him? Even had the guy wear a uniform that looked like his. :)
Because he wasn't completely stupid?
Here I thought it was the wrinkles in the face.

Cause Anson Mount doesn't have nearly as many wrinkles as Shatner when he was 52.

Both have Gray Hair.
I found my first Grey hair when I was twenty-four. I was completely Grey by thirty-five. Big frigging deal, I am now 65, have bus driver's arm, and for the most part am fine.
 
There aren't that many Centenarian's IRL compared to the rest of the Human Population.
Current Estimates Globally are 935,000 Centenarians in 2024.


Interesting how Shatner looks much older when he was 52 y/o in TWoK.

Where as Anson Mount is currently 52 y/o and looks very spry for his age.
Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation tend to look older compared to their Gen X counterparts
 
The point is that Kirk "feels" old, not that he objectively is old. He feels useless and directionless, lacking a purpose. They never actually mention his age in the film.
In Nicholas Meyer's original screenplay, Kirk was turning 49. Shatner requested that they don't mention a specific age, because he had the actor's natural concern that once he played 49 onscreen, he could never play younger after that.
 
Then the line would have been "that overgrown Boy Scout you used to tell me about."
And "overgrown Boy Scout" is David's impression, not Carol's (the movie is explicit about that.) There had to be some interaction for him to form it.
No, not at all. People, especially people who are close, don't qualify what they've been told so precisely when they speak to each other. It was completely clear that David had formed an impression based on tidbits or other recountings and things that Carol had told him about Jim, and that that impression was off base. Perhaps the reason was because Carol had been selective; perhaps David had made assumptions because of his own biases, especially in regards to the fact that Jim was in Starfleet, cf "scientists have always been pawns of the military". "Boy Scout" was David's impression, not anything Carol had said explicitly.
 
50 can be really rough because we tend to see it as a milestone age. Now that I'm 57, I realize how much more my health and attitude are in my control. It's made a difference. But I won't say it's easy. I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.
The aches and pain and memory blanks are real but better to be past 50 than the alternative. I buried friends in who never saw 34 years old.
Looking for glasses that are on ones face is my favourite old thing lol
 
50 can be really rough because we tend to see it as a milestone age. Now that I'm 57, I realize how much more my health and attitude are in my control. It's made a difference. But I won't say it's easy. I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.

Let's not forget we older folks also get the perks of complaining about young people and knowing with certainty we are correct!
 
I try to remember that people used to retire at 55 and die in their 60s.
Some did. It actually wasn't common. Most would retire at 60/65 and live into their 70s. As fewer and fewer children die, life expectancy increases. The only grandparent of mine that didn't live into their 80s died in a car accident, and both of my parents lived into their 80s, my dad almost to 90.
 
To state the obvious, no one in Gen X is as old as any Boomer or member of the Silent Generation.

When they reach their seventies, we'll see how they look.

I started noticing real energy loss about the time I turned 70.
 
I actually find the older I get it's getting more difficult to sleep. Getting to sleep is the main problem, though I tend wake up earlier and earlier of my own accord. To say nothing of how common it is to spend an entire night just laying in bed and not sleeping at all.

Granted, I suspect all the time I've spend working the overnight shift probably did its part to screw up my sleep cycle.
 
To state the obvious, no one in Gen X is as old as any Boomer or member of the Silent Generation.

When they reach their seventies, we'll see how they look.

I started noticing real energy loss about the time I turned 70.
Gen Xers are in their 50's now e.g Anson Mount, and look younger than 50 year olds in the 1980's e.g William Shatner. Baby Boomers born in 1960 are 65 and look way younger than the 65 years olds in the 1980's.
(Generalisation of course)
 
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Gen Xers are in their 50's now e.g Anson Mount and look younger than 50 year olds in the 1980's e.g William Shatner. Baby Boomers born in 1960 are 65 and look way younger than the 65 years olds in the 1980's.
(Generalisation of course)
If they keep looking that way, I wonder if we could all look & function like we were eternally youthful at 50.

WWE SuperStar Ron Killings (AKA R-Truth) looks as good as when he was younger.

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R-Truth is 53 y/o now and he doesn't look a day over 30.
 
We should all do so well as to have such a long and full life as Shatner has had so far. Astonishingly, he still doesn't show many signs of slowing down as one might expect from someone of his advanced age. I saw some bullshit clickbait site claiming he had recently been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but I'm pretty sure it was exactly that - bullshit.
Whenever I think about Shatner's age, I'm reminded that my grandfather was only a few days younger than him, but sadly passed almost a decade ago. I wish grandpa had managed to stay in as great health as Bill's in! Unfortunately, he just didn't win the genetic lottery.
 
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