What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[CorporalCaptain]

It seems like the Prime Directive is a Starfleet rule but they've definitely come down on folks outside of Starfleet who were interfering with alien worlds, including John Gill, Nikolai Rozhenko, and even the Ferengi running a con in the Delta Quadrant. Kirk armed the tribe in A Private Little War to counter Klingon interference. They don't want it happening at all.

That's true.

"Angel One" tells another side, but I don't believe this other side meshes well with Picard's attitude in "Homeward." From "Angel One":

DATA: Mister Ramsey is correct, Counsellor. The Odin was not a starship, which means her crew is not bound by the Prime Directive. If he and the others wish to stay here, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.​

Of course, that's not really an anomaly, because canon often doesn't mesh well with itself.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

That's true.

"Angel One" tells another side, but I don't believe this other side meshes well with Picard's attitude in "Homeward." From "Angel One":

DATA: Mister Ramsey is correct, Counsellor. The Odin was not a starship, which means her crew is not bound by the Prime Directive. If he and the others wish to stay here, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.​

Of course, that's not really an anomaly, because canon often doesn't mesh well with itself.

As for the Freightor Odin.

In 2364, the starship was discovered, abandoned in space, by the USS Enterprise-D. Because it was a Federation freighter and not a part of Starfleet, it was not bound by the Prime Directive. (TNG: "Angel One")

Apparently Civilians within the UFP aren't bound by "The Prime Directive".

The same can't be said by those who are StarFleet or "Former StarFleet" related or employed.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I was thinking about that one. I think it's a bit of a different situation as Angel I isn't a primitive planet, they already know about aliens and have advanced technology, so the ability of the Odin crew to influence the world is limited. They have been speaking out against their culture, but as regular people, not as all-powerful aliens with technology beyond their imagination. If they'd carried out an operation to replace the government with a less sexist one, that would've been some proper Prime Directive violating and I reckon Starfleet would've gotten involved at that point.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The same can't be said by those who are StarFleet or "Former StarFleet" related or employed.

The premise that dropouts of Starfleet Academy like Nikolai Rozhenko are bound by the Prime Directive is pure fanon.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

The premise that dropouts of Starfleet Academy like Nikolai Rozhenko are bound by the Prime Directive is pure fanon.

It's based on deduction and inference why StarFleet would interfere with those who were previously related to StarFleet who violated "The Prime Directive".
And because of said Violation, StarFleet felt like they needed to interfere again to course correct the interference by the fomer StarFleet associate.

 

[HotRod]

Stop it. Just stop it. Another reboot, this time quietly.
This is my controversial opinion: move the fuck on from this timeline fuck!!!

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23rd Century is Best Century.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Stop it. Just stop it. Another reboot, this time quietly.
This is my controversial opinion: move the fuck on from this timeline fuck!!!

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I concur, if they don't want to use the budget on SNW.

They should consider giving Terry Matalas "ST: Legacy" idea a shot.

Maybe we can get another 5 seasons out of that show.

 

[Paul755]

Stop it. Just stop it. Another reboot, this time quietly.
This is my controversial opinion: move the fuck on from this timeline fuck!!!

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I dunno that this is all that controversial. I would say though, if they are dead set on doing a Kirk/Spock show, setting it post-TMP/pre-WoK would be a better choice. Make the non-canon 5 year mission Kirk commanded the refit…canon.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It's based on deduction and inference

So, as something not in canon, conceived by a fan, fanon.

 

[HotRod]

I concur, if they don't want to use the budget on SNW.

They should consider giving Terry Matalas "ST: Legacy" idea a shot.

Maybe we can get another 5 seasons out of that show.

That would require building entirely new sets. The SNW sets are built and standing.

 

[BillJ]

It's based on deduction and inference…

Not everyone is going to come to the same conclusions, hence it is fanon.

 

[BillJ]

If they'd carried out an operation to replace the government…

You mean like Picard did in “Code of Honor”?

 

[Jayson1]

My biggest issue I guess is it simply makes no sense to not make the prime directive apply to even civilians. If your going to have it as a rule for Starfleet, why would the Federation government only apply it to Starfleet? Without the rule, then the door for exploitation would be wide open. I can't even really think of a good argument for allowing civilians to interfere.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That would require building entirely new sets. The SNW sets are built and standing.

You slap on a little paint. Switch out a light bulb…

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

My biggest issue I guess is it simply makes no sense to not make the prime directive apply to even civilians. If your going to have it as a rule for Starfleet, why would the Federation government only apply it to Starfleet? Without the rule, then the door for exploitation would be wide open. I can't even really think of a good argument for allowing civilians to interfere.

If you're applying the "Prime Directive" to civilians, why aren't you applying all the other rules to civilians as well?

 

[Nerys Myk]

My biggest issue I guess is it simply makes no sense to not make the prime directive apply to even civilians. If your going to have it as a rule for Starfleet, why would the Federation government only apply it to Starfleet? Without the rule, then the door for exploitation would be wide open. I can't even really think of a good argument for allowing civilians to interfere.

Isn’t it internal to Starfleet? Part of their rules. I think there might be rules and regulations for the US military that do not apply to US citizens as a while.

 

[Jayson1]

But the Prime Directive is more than just a minor rule. Entire planets of people can be exploited without legal protection. Granted their is not much I know you can do with non-citizens but I would think at least the Federation can make sure Federation folks are not doing the exploiting.

 

[fireproof78]

But the Prime Directive is more than just a minor rule. Entire planets of people can be exploited without legal protection. Granted their is not much I know you can do with non-citizens but I would think at least the Federation can make sure Federation folks are not doing the exploiting.

And likely a civil law governs the civilian population like the Prime Directive governs Starfleet officers and personnel.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

And likely a civil law governs the civilian population like the Prime Directive governs Starfleet officers and personnel.

That makes a lot more sense.

Maybe a "UFP-wide Federal Law" that applies to all it's citizens.

 

[cooleddie74]

Also called "the law."