What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Airin]

That's because Star Trek inherently contains a certain amount of militarism.

I mean, Starfleet seems to me a pretty direct parallel to the Navy, from the branch divisions (engineering, comms, etc.) to the more obvious rank divisions.

 

[UssGlenn]

Shouldn't the UE MACO's be folded into the United Earth Space Probe Agency (UESPA)?

Starfleet is under UESPA. MACOs under Starfleet

Sort of, but not exactly like: US Military>US Navy>US Marine Corps

 

[Tallguy]

but maybe not too well for us to understand...

I'd imagine it was very understandable in 1967.

 

[Shawnster]

That's still a valid comparison, considering Starfleet also acts as the defense force for the Federation and part of its job is to protect and defend Federation worlds and citizens.

The point, though, is there are no detailed stats on the ships exploration abilities in contrast to the wealth of military stats and descriptions.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Shouldn't the UE MACO's be folded into the United Earth Space Probe Agency (UESPA)?

I think Starfleet was spun off from the UESPA and gained the UE MACOs.

 

[fireproof78]

The point, though, is there are no detailed stats on the ships exploration abilities in contrast to the wealth of military stats and descriptions.

Interesting detail to focus on then.

One would imagine sensor arrays, science land, and analytical equipment statistics would be just as readily available as torpedo launchers and phaser banks?

 

[cooleddie74]

Pretty much. The agency was simply UESPA until around or in 2132 when Starfleet was chartered as a separate organization and the MACOs were an independent military agency until the birth of the Federation in 2161.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Not about Star Trek, but about us: Somehow, we can’t help a certain amount of militarism. When we compare starship classes in online videos and such, it’s always about how they compare tactically, rather than which is better at exploring planets or making first contacts.

I can definitely imagine videos doing that, but the ones I've found (mostly Certifiably Ingame) talk about a ship's capabilities overall.

 

[at Quark's]

I sure hope they solve the cause of thinning hair and baldness by the 23rd century.

Only for that knowledge to be lost again by the late 24th century? (Picard, Sisko, EMH / Dr. Zimmerman ...)

 

[FredH]

Only for that knowledge to be lost again by the late 24th century? (Picard, Sisko, EMH / Dr. Zimmerman ...)

What’s odd is, by this point baldness should be an aesthetic choice, not an uncontrollable medical condition. Picard and Sisko both look great bald.

 

[at Quark's]

^I think we can be fairly certain Sisko was bald by choice (in-universe, I mean) - he wasn't bald in the first three seasons after all, and he suddenly is at the beginning of the 4th.

I don't know about Picard and Zimmerman. The last one mentions his baldness as a symptom of his disease but that's in one of his acerbic responses.

 

[BillJ]

Not about Star Trek, but about us: Somehow, we can’t help a certain amount of militarism. When we compare starship classes in online videos and such, it’s always about how they compare tactically, rather than which is better at exploring planets or making first contacts.

Interesting detail to focus on then.

One would imagine sensor arrays, science land, and analytical equipment statistics would be just as readily available as torpedo launchers and phaser banks?

Ordinance can serve a purpose, even during peaceful explorations.

 

[fireproof78]

Ordinance can serve a purpose, even during peaceful explorations.

I have no issue with ordnance. I know how to handle ordnance, and the nurse practitioner and I have plans to go out shooting despite our working in the healthcare field.

Ordnance is quite useful. I just wouldn't mind seeing the stats on scientific equipment too in games like Starfleet Battles or STO.

 

[BillJ]

I have no issue with ordinance. I know how to handle ordinance, and the nurse practitioner and I have plans to go out shooting despite our working in the healthcare field.

Ordinance is quite useful. I just wouldn't mind seeing the stats on scientific equipment too in games like Starfleet Battles or STO.

I was thinking more along the lines of things like using phasers to gain samples of particularly dense asteroids.

 

[fireproof78]

I was thinking more along the lines of things like using phasers to gain samples of particularly dense asteroids.

That too.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

The point, though, is there are no detailed stats on the ships exploration abilities in contrast to the wealth of military stats and descriptions.

How do you measure "Exploration Capabilities" of a StarShip?

What are your parameters?

 

[Farscape One]

The point, though, is there are no detailed stats on the ships exploration abilities in contrast to the wealth of military stats and descriptions.

Warp capabilities are shown for the various ships. That's a major component of exploration.

 

[StarTrek1701]

Pretty much. The agency was simply UESPA until around or in 2132 when Starfleet was chartered as a separate organization and the MACOs were an independent military agency until the birth of the Federation in 2161.

Help? Can't get your messages in my other account, completely shut out. Please advice. This is my last course of action.

 

[Phoenix219]

Help? Can't get your messages in my other account, completely shut out. Please advice. This is my last course of action.

whats going on? i've been messaging you as well.

 

[1001001]

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Thanks