What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Citiprime]

All starships and shuttles should have seatbelts its stupid that the new shows do not include this

Isn't that what the inertial dampers are for?

If the inertial dampers fail, what good is a seat belt going to do when the force exerted on the ship pulls the seat belt apart and you splatter against the floor or the wall with the g-forces of going near the speed of light at impulse?

 

[Tallguy]

Isn't that what the inertial dampers are for?

If the inertial dampers fail, what good is a seat belt going to do when the force exerted on the ship pulls the seat belt apart and you splatter against the floor or the wall with the g-forces of going near the speed of light at impulse?

Sure. But what if they fail at a speed that would be survivable with restraints? In shuttlecraft this situation should be fairly ordinary. ("Survivable" is ordinary. Not the dampers failing.)

 

[Nyotarules]

Huh, I guess my brain totally forgot the character's established age, I thought they were supposed to be around twenty. I sort of feel the show did, too.

It was a similar stupid decision regarding Chekov in ST09, because a civilised Earth always have 17 year olds engaged in combat or involved in major rescue operations

 

[Nerys Myk]

No way in Hell(guard) it would have happened: But Kirk should have been balding in The Wrath of Khan. Maybe even TMP.

Maybe if they had shown Shatner lots and lots of photos of Sean Connery.

No he should look like this

 

[Shawnster]

Huh, I guess my brain totally forgot the character's established age, I thought they were supposed to be around twenty. I sort of feel the show did, too.

Some 16/17 "year olds are that mature.

Do we know much about Adira's time in that uniformed Earth organization or reason for joining?

Wasnt Joan of Arc 17?

 

[137th Gebirg]

During a time when life expectancy probably didn’t exceed beyond 40 or 50 on the outside, she was close to middle-aged.

 

[Nyotarules]

Some 16/17 "year olds are that mature.

Do we know much about Adira's time in that uniformed Earth organization or reason for joining?

Wasnt Joan of Arc 17?

Society does not decide child labour laws (or other laws) based on the small number of 16/17 years old who might be as mature as a 21 year old. If we did, we would not bother with age of consent laws.

The show did not give any background on why Adira joined the force, being part of the Earth police style team on the ship their role was definitely not minor, they probably had the power to arrest the crew if it came to it.

The period that Joan of Arc lived in is no great example for us to follow, unless you want 12 year old girls being married off to old men. (We consider cultures that still do this today as barbaric and backward)

 

[Henoch]

No way in Hell(guard) it would have happened: But Kirk should have been balding in The Wrath of Khan. Maybe even TMP.

Maybe if they had shown Shatner lots and lots of photos of Sean Connery.

I sure hope they solve the cause of thinning hair and baldness by the 23rd century.

 

[Nyotarules]

I sure hope they solve the cause of thinning hair and baldness by the 23rd century.

As the great GR said about Picard, it won't matter (even if there is a cure the stigma should be gone once we meet The Deltans.)

 

[Tallguy]

As the great GR said about Picard, it won't matter (even if there is a cure the stigma should be gone once we meet The Deltans.)

And yet when Picard beams back at the end of Rascals he checks his hair. And is disappointed.

 

[137th Gebirg]

That was a cool moment. Nice little touches like that make for a richer tapestry of a show.

 

[FredH]

Not about Star Trek, but about us: Somehow, we can’t help a certain amount of militarism. When we compare starship classes in online videos and such, it’s always about how they compare tactically, rather than which is better at exploring planets or making first contacts.

 

[Farscape One]

That's still a valid comparison, considering Starfleet also acts as the defense force for the Federation and part of its job is to protect and defend Federation worlds and citizens.

 

[Tallguy]

Not about Star Trek, but about us: Somehow, we can’t help a certain amount of militarism. When we compare starship classes in online videos and such, it’s always about how they compare tactically, rather than which is better at exploring planets or making first contacts.

That's because Star Trek inherently contains a certain amount of militarism.

 

[137th Gebirg]

"I'm a soldier"
- Kirk, Errand of Mercy

 

[Tallguy]

"I'm a soldier"
- Kirk, Errand of Mercy

Not the end of the story to be sure. But still part of the story.

 

[Henoch]

"I'm a soldier"
- Kirk, Errand of Mercy

This got me thinking (dangerous): Starfleet is a "combined service" per Kirk. Kirk says he is a soldier, so he considers himself to be in the military service, while Spock for example would say that he is a scientist, so he considers himself to be in the science/exploration service of Starfleet. Maybe the color of your shirt means more than your "department" rather it actually denotes Starfleet's three combined services, namely: Command (military); Sciences (sciences/exploration); and Operations (engineering/security). YMMV .

 

[Nerys Myk]

This got me thinking (dangerous): Starfleet is a "combined service" per Kirk. Kirk says he is a soldier, so he considers himself to be in the military service, while Spock for example would say that he is a scientist, so he considers himself to be in the science/exploration service of Starfleet. Maybe the color of your shirt means more than your "department" rather it actually denotes Starfleet's three combined services, namely: Command (military); Sciences (sciences/exploration); and Operations (engineering/security). YMMV .

I've always taken "combined service" to refer to Starfleet being all the military branches in one.

In context

KIRK: Bridge.
CHRISTOPHER: Must have taken quite a lot to build a ship like this.
KIRK: There are only twelve like it in the fleet.
CHRISTOPHER: I see. Did the Navy
KIRK: We're a combined service, Captain. Our authority is the United Earth Space Probe Agency.

 

[cooleddie74]

Kelvin Timeline Scotty pretty much confirms that when he mentions that the United Earth MACOs were folded into Starfleet and disbanded as a separate unit and organization after 2161. Starfleet clearly employs infantry tactics in later generations and centuries, but those are no longer an independent branch of Federation uniformed services.

 

[Henoch]

I've always taken "combined service" to refer to Starfleet being all the military branches in one.

In context

Being a military man, Capt. Christopher first went to Navy (military) because Kirk used the term "fleet", then Kirk tries to correct this line of thought by explaining it as a combined service but maybe not too well for us to understand...

Kelvin Timeline Scotty pretty much confirms that when he mentions that the United Earth MACOs were folded into Starfleet and disbanded as a separate unit and organization after 2161. Starfleet clearly employs infantry tactics in later generations and centuries, but those are no longer an independent branch of Federation uniformed services.

Shouldn't the UE MACO's be folded into the United Earth Space Probe Agency (UESPA)?