What are you least favorite Star Trek novels?

[Myasishchev]

Heck, I don't even like Marvel/DC crossovers.

 

[Christopher]

Why on earth someone decided to cross those over, I'll never understand.

Because they've both got Patrick Stewart in them, of course!

(Sorry, couldn't resist )

There is a scene in Planet X where Picard meets a holodeck Xavier and is struck by the resemblance -- and that was before Stewart was cast as Xavier in the movies! Similarly, in Diane Duane's novel X-Men: Empire's End, she clearly wrote Xavier with Patrick Stewart's speech patterns in mind, again well before he was cast. I think a lot of people who were fans of both TNG and X-Men pegged Stewart as the ideal Xavier long before it happened. I know I did, even before I read either of those books.

I've found that impulse -- take character X and put them in story Y -- to be a great source of creative energy. An author doesn't need to use it for its crossover potential, but sometimes it can be a great starting point for telling a story. Put an atypical character type into an already existing situation. Unless I'm misremembering what Christopher has said about Greater than the Sum, Trys had her origins in that kind of thinking.

Sort of. I had a friend who was into Dungeons & Dragons and I'd expressed some curiosity and trepidation about gaming, so she had the idea to get me started with an e-mail game run by her with me as the sole player, in which I would play a Starfleet officer transported to a D&D world (the rationalization being that it was an alternate dimension). T'Ryssa was the character I created for that game, though her name was originally T'Lyssa (changed due to its similarity to "T'Lana").

Though come to think of it, you may be referring to my idea of using Trys as a sort of Ensign Ro character, a more unruly element to introduce to the stalwart Enterprise crew so as to shake things up a bit.

 

[seigezunt]

^I'm referring to when people think "this over here is doing really well, and this over there is doing really well, so even though they are totally unconnected, let's mash them together."

Kinda like "It's Wagon Train... to the stars!"

or, "the Fonz is a hit, and Jaws was a hit, so lets have the Fonz jump over a shark!"

 

[William Leisner]

^I'm referring to when people think "this over here is doing really well, and this over there is doing really well, so even though they are totally unconnected, let's mash them together."

Kinda like "It's Wagon Train... to the stars!"

or, "the Fonz is a hit, and Jaws was a hit, so lets have the Fonz jump over a shark!"

Actually, Jaws was a hit two years before that episode aired. And the funny thing is, that episode got pretty good ratings, and Happy Days remained on ABC's schedule for another seven seasons.

 

[Reanok]

I checked out the Tos New Earth miniseries out of the library a few years ago to read and didn't like the miniseries at all. I got bored reading halfway through book 3 I finished reading all the books but I didn't care for this book miniseries at all.Also Warped of all the ds9 books I've read over the years this is the one ds9 book I really didn't like very much.

 

[Yojimbo28]

TOS - Windows on a Lost World
TNG - Grounded
DS9 - The Laertian Gamble

 

[LutherSloan]

I checked out the Tos New Earth miniseries out of the library a few years ago to read and didn't like the miniseries at all. I got bored reading halfway through book 3 I finished reading all the books but I didn't care for this book miniseries at all.Also Warped of all the ds9 books I've read over the years this is the one ds9 book I really didn't like very much.

Yeah, the whole 'New Earth' series is very odd. The UFP helps a bunch of colonists go and colonize a sector of space, but the colonists want to be left alone. Ooookkkk....

That and the whole libertarian thing annoys me.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Why does that not make sense? I would expect part of the reason people go and colonize worlds is because they don't like the way things are being done where they come from.

 

[Myasishchev]

I checked out the Tos New Earth miniseries out of the library a few years ago to read and didn't like the miniseries at all. I got bored reading halfway through book 3 I finished reading all the books but I didn't care for this book miniseries at all.Also Warped of all the ds9 books I've read over the years this is the one ds9 book I really didn't like very much.

Yeah, the whole 'New Earth' series is very odd. The UFP helps a bunch of colonists go and colonize a sector of space, but the colonists want to be left alone. Ooookkkk....

That and the whole libertarian thing annoys me.

Star Trek is a harsh mistress.

They didn't start yelling "TANSTAAFL," did they? I think that's probably a swear word in the Federation, since lunch is, indeed, free.

 

[mattburgess]

^ I don't get it.
(And yes, I did figure out the letters, but I still don't get it)

 

[Christopher]

It's a reference to Robert A. Heinlein's novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, which is considered a seminal work of libertarian science fiction, about lunar colonists rebelling against the oppressive Earth government. TANSTAAFL, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch," is a sentiment that's central to the book's ideas.

 

[LutherSloan]

It's been like 10 years since that series came out, so I don't remember specifics like that anymore.

 

[Christopher]

^Uhh, was that responding to me? The Heinlein reference wasn't in the New Earth miniseries, it was in Myasishchev's post from yesterday making a joke about the New Earth miniseries and its libertarian elements.

 

[Smiley]

That was a favorite phrase of my high school economics teacher, although he did not tell us that it came from Heinlein (or some earlier source, if Heinlein did not invent the phrase).

 

[Nerys Myk]

Warped

The Phoenix books

The Eugenics Wars

Enterprise the First Adventure

 

[Christopher]

That was a favorite phrase of my high school economics teacher, although he did not tell us that it came from Heinlein (or some earlier source, if Heinlein did not invent the phrase).

Wikipedia says The Moon is a Harsh Mistress popularized the saying, but that's not the same as creating it.

 

[Harvey]

I'm suprised nobody has brought up Garth of Izar yet. Even if you ignore the idiotic editing mistake that watches the Klingons become Romulans and then go back to being Klingons again (it may be the other way around, but I'm not about to re-read it to find out), it has absolutely nothing of interest to say about the title character. Even the twist (Garth is evil, nah, just kidding, he was only pretending to be back to his old ways) is far too telegraphed to offer anything of interest.

 

[LutherSloan]

^Uhh, was that responding to me? The Heinlein reference wasn't in the New Earth miniseries, it was in Myasishchev's post from yesterday making a joke about the New Earth miniseries and its libertarian elements.

No, I actually don't remember who I was responding to, lol...

 

[donners22]

Actually, Jaws was a hit two years before that episode aired. And the funny thing is, that episode got pretty good ratings, and Happy Days remained on ABC's schedule for another seven seasons.

The Simpsons is still going and presumably rating well, but their shark was jumped quite some time ago...



For the original topic, I can only name the usual suspects: Warped, the first two Mirror Universe anthologies and the A Time To... series.

 

[Thrawn]

^ Most people seem to have really enjoyed the Mirror Universe anthologies, actually. I certainly did.