Spoilers What are the odds of Cornwell making it to the end of the season?

[Succubint]

I have really grown to like this character. She's ballsy, smart, driven and also caring. I love that they made her a psychologist who rose to the Admiral rank via a medical career.

It would make me really sad if she were killed in the line of duty, since we've already had two other significant female characters die on the show so far: Georgiou and Landry. If Cornwell's fate is to die at the hands of the Klingons, then I hope she goes out as a badass, fighting till her last gasping breath.

Does anyone think she has a chance in hell of getting rescued and making it back in one piece? I'd like to think that the crew of the Discovery will at least try to recover her. The season trailers do have a few brief shots which would support this.

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.

Kudos to Jane Brooks for really fleshing out this character and making me invested in her well-being.

 

[Refuge]

I think I would be a little annoyed another female character was thrown under the bus.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I'm fairly certain the 'this season on Star Trek: Discovery' trailer had some scenes of Cornwell fighting a Klingon, possibly L'rell. Count me as one who hopes she makes it out alive and not as a 24 piece family bucket of Klingtucky fried cornwell.

 

[jaime]

I think I would be a little annoyed another female character was thrown under the bus.

While I essentially agree, it did also strike me last night how the only characters allowed to be ‘right’ and to essentially make decisions have all been female thus far. It only crossed my mind when wondering how the Admiral character would have worked in the most recent episodes had it been some grey-haired old dude. Led to me thinking about the power dynamics from that perspective.

I did like the way Admiral Cornwell hasn’t been heavily glammed up...you get a sense of age from her face without feeling necessary to cover her in make-up, and she is still obviously an attractive woman. It makes the bedroom scene like an odd callback to Kirks occasional seductions of guest cast, an echo of Picards romances and romantic history...making Lorca much more of a shadow of Kirk.
I quite liked her as a character, and it’s interesting thinking about her in relation to say Nechayev a few centuries later, who is very different in how she acts. Maybe she’s closer to an imagined Admiral Janeway.

 

[Blamo]

There's only really been two female characters who have been "right". Burnham (the lead, who has done some incorrect things) and Cornwell (who was tricked twice by Lorca). Landry meanwhile was so wrong/stupid she got herself killed.

 

[Paul Weaver]

There's only really been two female characters who have been "right". Burnham (the lead, who has done some incorrect things) and Cornwell (who was tricked twice by Lorca). Landry meanwhile was so wrong/stupid she got herself killed.

I think Georgiou did things 'right' too, and Tilly hasn't done anything wrong yet. Of the 5 main female characters one of them was wrong.

Compare with the 'wrong' male characters - Saru really annoys me, Stamets at the beginning, but he's become better, and Lorca. I think only Culber has been 'right'.

Spoiler: Lethe

Tyler's first real chance to be wrong, he overrules Tilly about leaving, which is fair enough given Lorca's threat, but then when Burnham tells him no, he pays attention to her instead, despite Tilly presumably outranking Burnham!

 

[Jarvisimo]

And L'Rrell! She's our other main female character

 

[starmike]

 

[Phily B]

I like her, I hope she sticks around, she could be the new Admiral Ross. At least she isn't Admiral Bitchayev mk 2.

 

[XCV330]

She's an interesting character. I think she'll be around. Unless the Klingons run out of sandwiches.

 

[Rich]

I barely register Landry's death, she is portrayed as arrogant and she dies from arrogance. And maybe a bit of awkward writing but it still fit her character, what little we got of her. The captain dying was a much bigger deal and learning what happens to her remains is also quite upsetting.

 

[shreefe]

I hope she somehow survives. I don't know how the Discovery will factor into it - Lorca, obviously, does not want her to come back as she made clear that she plans to take the ship from him.

There's a rather big hole in the logic around the Admiral's actions. She tells Lorca that she thinks he is unstable, in need of help, and unfit to command. After that she leaves -- without replacing him? Why? If she's so convinced he needs to be relieved of command, why would she not do that -before- she leaves? She could have just made Saru acting captain. Saru did a good job last time and, at the very least, she should have confidence that he will obey orders.

In any case, I like her and hope she gets free and lives and continues to be a character on the show. I'd also like for her to meet Starfleet's only mutineer. I would be interested in the interaction between them -- especially if Michael helps rescue her.

 

[Succubint]

Good points. I guess it was a plot contrivance not to have her report him before she left on the mission. One could wave it away as her still being personally reluctant to pull the plug because she cares about him so much, but it's still a mistake not to have relieved him of command immediately is she was that concerned. Maybe she paused because it would also reflect badly on her to the heads of Starfleet? After all, she let her feelings cloud her judgment and I got the impression she's basically been Lorca's cheerleader and protector while other Admirals have wanted to reassign him.

I hadn't considered the angle of Cornwell meeting Burnham and having to reassess her assumptions of "the first mutineer". That would be really cool. I hope it happens, but somehow I fear we won't get that.

 

[timtonruben359]

Personally I really like Cornwell and I think Jayne Brook plays the part really well. Like others have said I would peeved if yet another female officer gets killed off. The "This Season on Discovery" trailer has a quick clip of Cronwell engaged in hand to hand combat with L'Rell and it appears Michael is standing right behind her so perhaps Discovery does got on a rescue mission at some point.

 

[SolarisOne]

At least she isn't Admiral Bitchayev mk 2.

Wow. I am quite curious as to why you dislike Nechayev so.

 

[Refuge]

While I essentially agree, it did also strike me last night how the only characters allowed to be ‘right’ and to essentially make decisions have all been female thus far. It only crossed my mind when wondering how the Admiral character would have worked in the most recent episodes had it been some grey-haired old dude. Led to me thinking about the power dynamics from that perspective.

I did like the way Admiral Cornwell hasn’t been heavily glammed up...you get a sense of age from her face without feeling necessary to cover her in make-up, and she is still obviously an attractive woman. It makes the bedroom scene like an odd callback to Kirks occasional seductions of guest cast, an echo of Picards romances and romantic history...making Lorca much more of a shadow of Kirk.
I quite liked her as a character, and it’s interesting thinking about her in relation to say Nechayev a few centuries later, who is very different in how she acts. Maybe she’s closer to an imagined Admiral Janeway.

There are a number of female characters - front and centre so perhaps it is just a consequence of representation they feature in numbers that include..dying. Hadn't thought about being right more often. Though in a way I'm getting a sense the male characters are being schooled.

Although Lorca might have been throwing her off her game by sleeping with her she stood up and took her own clothes off. Lorca seemed kind of vulnerable with her which sounds about face after pulling out that phaser but that was less to do with her or that she was a woman, it was a military response from someone likely feeling threat. He pleaded with her, which was personal.

Not sure if her character will make the distance. Perhaps she will get a taste of what prisoners suffer and factor that in when she is rescued by someone she doesn't trust anymore. Or maybe she's on her own..

 

[SJA]

Probably better than some of the posters on here...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I like her character a lot and would like to see her somehow make it out of this alive, but the moment she said she was going to report her conclusions about Lorca's mental state to Starfleet I said "Oh, you're dead." I give her about 1 in 500 odds of survival. Her only hope is that Lorca's reticence about going against orders to rescue her despite his previous rogue behavior is just a misdirect on the writer's part to conceal a later rescue mission or trade he's got brewing.

 

[guyute03]

I see it far more likely that Lorca blows up wherever she's located with those Klingons like he did with the Busan.
Sorry. Seems kinda obvious.

 

[oberth]

i guess she will rethink that after he broke through the door phasers blazing and violating every (but 2) starfleet rules in the process