What’s a former controversy that seems to have died out?

[F. King Daniel]

Gays and queers in Star Trek.

Yes, to some on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter this is still an issue (or to the bots of the Dead Internet, at the very least). But here? If Wayback wasn't down I'd link to a thread from 2001, where the idea being floated for Enterprise was... not greeted very warmly.

Then again, Discovery and Academy are packed with openly LGBTQIA+ characters and are quite passionately disliked, SNW has just one character who mentions it offhand and someone else with a haircut that implies it.

So maybe we're not there yet.

 

[Catboots]

Gays and queers in Star Trek.

Can you tell the SNW writers/showrunners this? I don't think they got the memo. Or rather, I think they got the memo in S1 but then lost it for S2, 3, & 4.

Edit: Just saw you mention SNW, in my defence I am drinking my morning coffee as I write this. My bad.

 

[korblborp]

Is that a bad thing?



What if it’s a dress uniform?

most of the dress uniforms are terrible

 

[Detached Nacelle]

I will never be convinced Malcolm Reed wasn't an over-compensating closeted power bottom.

 

[Tomalak]

SNW has a slight sense of shutting the closet again. But then it's concurrent with SFA so I don't think there's a particular agenda here.

But I would be surprised, given the direction things have been going, if the next Trek movie or series has anything like the Stamets/Culber couple or Adira.

 

[Firebird]

SNW has just one character who mentions it offhand and someone else with a haircut that implies it.

So maybe we're not there yet.

That's been one of my biggest problems with SNW since season 2. We had an openly bisexual Chapel, a gay relationship between Una and Erica in The Elysian Kingdom, several queer-presenting recurring characters elsewhere on Enterprise, and the gloriously awesome non-binary Captain Angel... but after season one, it all went quietly in the closet.

 

[Frontis]

A controversy that died out? To my mind comes that Klingons are bad and enemies and primitive.

 

[Steve Roby]

That's been one of my biggest problems with SNW since season 2. We had an openly bisexual Chapel, a gay relationship between Una and Erica in The Elysian Kingdom, several queer-presenting recurring characters elsewhere on Enterprise, and the gloriously awesome non-binary Captain Angel... but after season one, it all went quietly in the closet.

Captain Angel really should have been brought back. I'm a boring old cis het guy who likes cis het women, but a TV show doesn't cast someone with Jesse James Keitel's presence and charisma very often.

But then, moving away from LGBTQ+ issues (maybe), SNW still hasn't followed up on Sybok, either.

 

[FredH]

SNW still hasn't followed up on Sybok, either.

Pretty sure Sybok was a one-off “hey, look who it is!” But at this point, with so little left to go, I’d be fine with SNW not doing any more callbacks and just focusing on its own stuff.

 

[The Salt Umpire]

I think we pretty much agree that the galactic edge in WNMHGB isn't there. Sorry Gary Mitchell.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think we pretty much agree that the galactic edge in WNMHGB isn't there. Sorry Gary Mitchell.

Are you sure...?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Galactic_Barrier_(episode)

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The galactic barrier was also revisited in "By Any Other Name" and was integral to the story.

 

[Catboots]

It was in the Medusan episode as well (Is there in Truth no Beauty IIRC).

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It was in the Medusan episode as well (Is there in Truth no Beauty IIRC).

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Spock says that, as a result of their out-of-control maneuver, they wound up in what we might call a pocket universe, in today's terminology. They mention crossing the barrier to return, but it could arguably be a different barrier, associated with the transition between that pocket universe and regular spacetime.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I recall a lot of nerdy drama back in the day regarding shuttles being able to go at warp speed. Thankfully, Discovery and SNW made it clear that they do (and that Spock once crossed half the galaxy in one but...)

Oh, and can't forget the turbolift roller coaster of Disco and Short Treks, and insane turbolift caverns/machine city in between the decks of Discovery!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I recall a lot of nerdy drama back in the day regarding shuttles being able to go at warp speed. Thankfully, Discovery and SNW made it clear that they do (and that Spock once crossed half the galaxy in one but...)

That was always ridiculous. TOS shuttles visibly had warp nacelles, and at least two episodes ("The Menagerie" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield") involved shuttles travelling interstellar distances from starbases.

Oh, and can't forget the turbolift roller coaster of Disco and Short Treks, and insane turbolift caverns/machine city in between the decks of Discovery!

Settled as being sucktacular, right?!

 

[FredH]

Spock as the first Vulcan in Starfleet (and therefore later canon being “wrong” thereby).

 

[Nyotarules]

SNW has a slight sense of shutting the closet again. But then it's concurrent with SFA so I don't think there's a particular agenda here.

But I would be surprised, given the direction things have been going, if the next Trek movie or series has anything like the Stamets/Culber couple or Adira.

Stamets/Culber are a popular character and couple. The actors who played Adira and Gray were not very good at acting IMO. The actor in The Serene Squall was miles better.

 

[Nyotarules]

That's been one of my biggest problems with SNW since season 2. We had an openly bisexual Chapel, a gay relationship between Una and Erica in The Elysian Kingdom, several queer-presenting recurring characters elsewhere on Enterprise, and the gloriously awesome non-binary Captain Angel... but after season one, it all went quietly in the closet.

Apart from Spock/Chapel and La'An not many of the characters have romances so we have no idea what their sexuality is. M'Benga talks about ex wives, Pike had two female lovers, the other characters not a clue. Trek generally does not do these things well for anyone. Unless you are the captain.

 

[Nyotarules]

Spock as the first Vulcan in Starfleet (and therefore later canon being “wrong” thereby).

When was this ever a thing?