We Have All The Time In The World: OHMSS Turning 50

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by cooleddie74, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. Captaindemotion

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    Yeah, I’ve been wondering if they’ll keep it in the family or just do a George Lucas and sell off the rights
     
  2. Kai "the spy"

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    They are already the second generation, so there is more of a "family business" aspect to Eon and the Bond series. And at least Barbara Broccoli seems to still have some strong feelings on what to do, or rather not to do with James Bond. So, yeah, she might stick around a bit longer, but she would need a good partner. David would be the obvious choice, both for family reasons, but also that he's got experience in the business even beyond the Bond movies.
     
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  3. CorporalClegg

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    I think when Mike retires, Amazon will offer Babs a lucrative 'prestige' post in trade for full creative control.
     
  4. Kai "the spy"

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    They most definitely have already made that offer to both of them.
     
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  7. Kai "the spy"

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    So, each novel will now be two pages long?
     
  8. Starkers

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    I think people need to look a little deeper into this, the changes are not wide ranging and in many cases are the kind of changes Fleming himself agreed to when LALD was published in the US, toning down some of the racial language.

    There's a detailed write up looking at both sides here.

    I'm torn, on the whole I don't think authors should be rewritten for the modern age, but I also realise that in some cases this is unavoidable. Does anyone think Christie's 'And then there were none' should revert to its original title?

    The worst thing here is that I agree with the theory postulated in the article, this has nothing to do with 'wokeness' and everything to do with cynical marketing, and I think that goes for both Fleming and Dahl.
     
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    The claim in Ian Fleming Publications' statement in that article that Fleming "seems" to have preferred the edited US version of Live and Let Die is interesting, though a quote to that effect would be helpful and is not offered.

    My "master" set of Fleming's Bond books are the Penguin trade paperback editions from 20 years ago with the beautiful Richie Fahey pulp-style covers (first three below). They include the original, unaltered text of all the books, including LaLD.

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  11. Foxhot

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    ''Seems'' is such an unreliable word. I know not seems.
     
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    There original title was weaker than the replacement anyway.
     
  13. Foxhot

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    But the ''interim'' title, TEN LITTLE INDIANS, is more often than not used for the cinematic versions of the story.
     
  14. Starkers

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    I think that title is rightly seen as equally problematic these days. The only problem with "And then there were none" of course is that it
    kinda gives the game away.
     
  15. Starkers

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    They're great!

    The other problem with the new editions is that their covers are bland as fuck as well!
     
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    Not necessarily (in the movies, at least). ATTWN is just the ending of the song the characters hear
     
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    After having just watched Bodyguard, I think Richard Madden might be an interesting choice for the new Bond.
     
  18. Captaindemotion

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    That was a common reaction to Bodyguard. But I wonder if his role in the forthcoming Citadel, in which he plays a spy, might mean that he’s a little overexposed in that genre for Eon’s liking? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9794044/
     
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    I don't know, I think these days most eligible blokes are likely to have played a spy or a cop or a detective or some other kind of action hero before getting the gig. Death Train didn't derail Brosnan's chances after all (I'll get my coat).

    I wonder if Madden, and the likes of Aiden Turner etc are almost too old now given the kind of noises Eon have been making? Taylor-Johnson is four years younger than Madden and seven years younger than Turner. We could be looking at Bond #26 not coming out until 2025 at the earliest, which means Madden could be almost 40 and Turner 42ish. I mean this is fine and perfectly in line with Dalton/ Brosnan and Craig, but times have changed, sadly the film every 2 years model seems to be out of the window and now 3/4 years (if not more) seems likely and if we take Craig's retirement age of early fifties as an acceptable end point then you'll be lucky to get four films max out of someone like Madden or Turner.

    Waits for someone to say "But what about Cruise?" And yes we might get lucky and we may get an actor who not only continues to look good well into his fifties but is also capable of the physical rigours of the role but how likely is that?

    Talking of Turner I saw he and Jenna Coleman in Lemons, Lemons, Lemons, Lemons, Lemons on stage a few weeks ago and he was really good. I've tended to only see him in very serious roles but he was funny and I do think he'd make a great 007 in the mould of Dalton, but like I say, probably time is against him now.

    Who knows though, despite them giving off the vibe of wanting someone who can be 007 for 15+ years and at least five films, maybe Eon would be ok with hiring someone who's only able to commit to a trilogy?
     
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    Disregarding the yellow card I should be handing you for the pun, I take your point about other roles. But there’s a difference between the sort of direct to video movies Pierce did back in the day and what is apparently the most expensive tv show ever, from the makers of the last two Avengers movie, certainly in terms of profile (and it might also tie Madden up for the foreseeable if it’s a hit).

    It’s really hard to know on the age thing. I think you’re right on paper, but actors seem to be getting younger looking and able to pass for younger. It still blows my mind that Robert Pattinson in The Batman was more or less the same age that George Clooney was in Batman v Robin.