WB's Justice League 2017 movie pre-discussion thread
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Name one critique of how it's bad for Batman and Flash to have a Mentor type relationship. Then go see how many complained over Peter and Tony having one.
I am a huge MCU fan but this sort of thing is not unique to Marvel. From the casting of Affleck or Eisenberg, to the casting of Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher, to the leads in The Force Awakens, to gender-swapping Starbuck or, more recently Doctor Who, there is not an adaptation of an existing property that doesn’t face some sort of backlash from a small but noisy minority. As Christopher said earlier, most people just want to be entertained - this sort of faux-controversy should not be confused with representing popular opinion.
There are toxic people in any context, but they're never representative of the entire class. It's just that on the Internet, the toxic few have a way of dominating conversations and drowning out other voices. You just need to keep in mind that the extremists never embody the entire whole.
And really, if you don't like toxicity, then please try not to indulge so much in confrontational, us-vs.-them rhetoric in your posts.
Easy. Just read the 66 pages of this thread:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/wbs-justice-league-2017-movie-pre-discussion-thread.281623/
And when you’re done read the 64 pages on this thread:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/warner-bros-announce-superhero-films-through-2020.256771/
There’s a lot more of DCEU bitching if you’re interested. About 100 times more than what the media favorite MCU received.
It kind of is, in that much of it is homogenous and doesn't stand out.
The DCEU has been stellar for me thus far because, while there's a consistent stylistic tone, nothing feels homogenized, and all of the principal characters feel real and/orlike they're important, even if/when they're not. I also want to own every installment and marathon them in order.
With the MCU, I only really care about a couple of the primary players, and only want to own a scant handful of the films.
You're going to have to explain "homogeneous" better here. As for the DCEU Principals feeling more "real" or "important" that's probably because there's fewer of them than in the MCU. And only 4 DCEU movies so far compared to MCU's 17.
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Nonsense.
More nonsense. Too many MCU films are thin--overblown & lacking any heart from the source material, all in exchange for the next emotionally juvenile Power Rangers/FX film, too busy dropping Easter eggs about the next ticket pitch than actually focusing on telling a solid story. If not for the Cap films, and perhaps Dr. Strange, the MCU would be worthless.
Oh, please. Marvel is not making art-house movies and taking chances. For example, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Cap and now Spider-Man have all had a strong media presence beyond comics since their first adaptations as animated series in the 1960s. The reason why they were adapted and distributed to several countries was due to their popularity. No D-list anything from comics was getting that kind of treatment in the 1960s. There was no risk in selecting the initial group of characters seen so far.
He wasn’t, he was replying to LJones41. I think he quoted him in the post.
Ah, that was stupid of me. I...didn't see the post or quote for reasons we aren't allowed to mention.
Homogeneous = The same.
Outside of the Thor films, the first Avengers, The Incredible Hulk, and the first two Captain America films, every single film in the MCU is literally beat-for- beat structurally, thematically, and tonally the same movie, just with different characters or groups of characters.
Yes-sense.
Such as?
IE, they don't go for that creatively bankrupt "grounded" approach and embrace the wondrous.
So you're upset they don't pretend they're in a vacuum completely dissociated from the rest of the Universe.
Nope, they'd still be redefining how CBMs are done. And that's what "grounded" CBM fans just can't stand. 2008 was supposed to be when DC's way took over how CBMs were done from then on, instead the opposite happened.
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It's what they've been doing since 2008.
Aside from Spidey, none of them had the mainstream acknowledgment that the X-Men and DC had for their characters.
MCU Studios taking a chance.
I get that, but that doesn't apply to the MCU.
You're going to have to do better than that. It's a blanket statement with no evidence.
It IS more proof of how the MCU is ripped into at every turn, though.
Out of curiosity, what do you call toxic Disney MCU fans? Especially ones that ONLY post in DC threads ALL the time?
Marvelites perhaps? Nah, that will mistake them with comic book fans that actually have read Marvel Comics.
There don't seem to be any, not on the toxicity level of Nolanites or X-Fans.
You see anything toxic from them, that's merely payback for years of how the Nolanites and X-Fans acted.
You call rabid MCU fans "Marvel Zombies".
Like that comic series from a decade or so ago.
Oh, there are Marvel Zombies out there. They spend their time putting down the DCEU (movies and CW shows), since by comparison (critically), the MCU (movies and Netflix) have been far more successful.
The XCU crapped the bed with Apocalypse and with JLaw returning for Supernova, everyone is embracing for another misguided Mystique movie. Deadpool 2, The Gifted, and New Mutants is where the XCU fans have moved their flag to.
After everyone reappraised TDKRises and found it to be an Inception Reunion film, featuring Batman. I think the Nolanites calmed their tits a tad.
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My suggestion would have been Feigists, but I like yours better.
For a moment, I was wondering what Jude Law had to do with the X-Movies.