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I didn't mind Pulaski. I did mind the fact that apparently all records of her were purged after Crusher returned, though. At least a token mention at some point would have been nice.
 
I know I'm in the minority but I rather liked Pulaski - I liked Crusher fine, too, but I found the on-again/off-again, pseudo-quasi semi-romance with Picard tedious in the extreme (but then again, I find pretty much all on-again/off-again, pseudo-quasi semi-romances tedious in the extreme), so I found Pulaski's curmudgeon quality rather refreshing.

I liked Pulaski, too. I found her to have at least 3 times the personality that Crusher had. Ha!

I'm also a big Pulaski fan. She was a good foil for Worf and Data, in particular.
 
At least a token mention at some point would have been nice.
There was one token mention I can recall. In "Pen Pals," Crusher refers to her by name when discussing Pulaski's technique of erasing memories.

Did you by chance mean Who Watches The Watchers? Pen Pals was season 2 and Pulaski was the one who wiped Sarjenka's memory. Crusher tried it in WWTW in season three on Liko, but it didn't work. Is that where she mentions Pulaski? I think I do remember some dialog that mentions her.
 
I'm also a big Pulaski fan. She was a good foil for Worf and Data, in particular.

Okay, I didn't think the Pulaski/Data thing worked at all. They were obviously trying to recreate the McCoy/Spock dynamic, but it came off very differently because Data was a much more innocent and guileless character than Spock.

Spock could hold his own when it came to exchanging zingers with McCoy. It was a battle of equals. But Pulaski ended up looking like she was picking on an unarmed opponent . . . .
 
I'm also a big Pulaski fan. She was a good foil for Worf and Data, in particular.

Okay, I didn't think the Pulaski/Data thing worked at all. They were obviously trying to recreate the McCoy/Spock dynamic, but it came off very differently because Data was a much more innocent and guileless character than Spock.

Spock could hold his own when it came to exchanging zingers with McCoy. It was a battle of equals. But Pulaski ended up looking like she was picking on an unarmed opponent . . . .

Although I rather liked Pulaski, I have to agree. In her relationship with Data, she didn't sound curmudgeonly. She sounded like a bigot. I didn't enjoy it at all. Frankly, McCoy sometimes did, too, but as Greg points out, Spock was able to take care of himself. Data...not so much - not when it came to defending himself against a shipmate.
 
I recall hearing at the time that TPTB were unhappy with Denise Crosby's layout in Playboy magazine not being in keeping with the family image of Star Trek, and that was the reason she was let go. She rationalized at the time that it was what she wanted anyway, and gave the "hailing frequencies" story at cons.

I got that issue.:bolian: The carpet did in fact match the curtains. :cool: Though it was a 1988 issue, the pictures were taken in 1979.
Family image..yet man hungry Troi's mom was insisting the people be naked at her daughter's wedding. :lol: :rommie:
 
At least a token mention at some point would have been nice.
There was one token mention I can recall. In "Pen Pals," Crusher refers to her by name when discussing Pulaski's technique of erasing memories.

Did you by chance mean Who Watches The Watchers? Pen Pals was season 2 and Pulaski was the one who wiped Sarjenka's memory. Crusher tried it in WWTW in season three on Liko, but it didn't work. Is that where she mentions Pulaski? I think I do remember some dialog that mentions her.
Yes, that was it. Got my wires crossed. :)

The exact dialog:
PICARD: I'm not sure that I concur with that reasoning, Doctor. But now that he's here, you must remove all memory of his encounter with the away team.
CRUSHER: By erasing short term recall?
PICARD: It has been accomplished before.
CRUSHER: I am familiar with Doctor Pulaski's technique. I can't guarantee it will be effective on Mintakan brain chemistry. Their lie-zone levels are much lower.
 
I read in an interview somewhere that she wanted to expand her career as an actress. She didn't want her name to forever be synonimous w/ Star Trek in the way that, for example, Nimoy and Shatner are. I remember her doing a movie 'the hand that rocks the cradle' or something like that - then she was pretty much gone from our collective consciousness. She should have never left, I can see how she would claim other factors to be the real reason she left in hindsight now that she realizes that this move pretty much ended her acting career.
 
I believe her first movie after leaving TNG was Pet Sematary. That was Rebecca DeMornay in The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.
 
If she had been on TNG for several years, that line of thinking ("I'm going to be forever associated with Star Trek, so I need to broaden my horizons") might be understandable. But, c'mon, after half a season? If she was that paranoid about being associated with Trek, why did she sign on in the first place? And, frankly, her "my character is not being used enough/properly" brings about the same response in me -- it's only been a freaking half season. Give the writers some time.
 
If she had been on TNG for several years, that line of thinking ("I'm going to be forever associated with Star Trek, so I need to broaden my horizons") might be understandable. But, c'mon, after half a season? If she was that paranoid about being associated with Trek, why did she sign on in the first place? And, frankly, her "my character is not being used enough/properly" brings about the same response in me -- it's only been a freaking half season. Give the writers some time.

This.

She just got it in her head that she was "better" than the show and "deserved more" and then backed out of her contract. (I suspect she had a buddy-agent who sold her all of these ideas of grandeur.) The problem is that when you back out of a contract it makes your ass look bad to other potential employers making it less like producers are going to be willing to take you on to their TV series and transitioning from TV to movies is a whole other thing and you've got to have a LOT of chops and charisma to make it in movies and Crosby didn't have to weight to back it up.

David Caruso left NYPD Blue and that pretty much ruined his career for the better part of a decade before landing CSI: Miami.

You back out of your contract and all-but demand to leave a show you make your self look like a prima donna with delusions of grandeur. This is also why it's fairly common to take someone's character when the actor has backed out and kill them off or ruin the character so much that it'd be unlikely for the character to come back in any meaningful capacity. In Caruso's case he "got lucky" and his character was just railroaded so much he couldn't come back in the same capacity.

Crosby got the more likely scenario. Her character was killed off as a "Fuck you!" so she couldn't ever come back to the series. Which she deserved. Props to the show for making one of the best episodes ever (Yesterday's Enterprise) and getting her back for that one episode, a bit of a boo to them for listening to her "great idea" of bringing her back more times as the Sela character although that was a touch or two creative. But ever since leaving and not getting a great career Crosby tried shoe-horning her way back in between the Sela character and her "Trekkies" movies, she wants to think that her fans were "cheated out of her." Not the case.

Crosby, you left the show. You got itchy because after half of a damn season you weren't being focused on enough, your plot lines were lame and your screen-time was lame. It was the first fucking season of the TV series. Get over yourself.

Geordi, Worf, Troi and Crusher all were going through the same problems and they stuck it out. (To be fair to Crusher her departure had nothing to do with McFadden's feelings on her character or place on the show.)

Crosby had her head up her own ass and it made her believe she was better than everyone else and she "deserved" more after a half-season of a syndicated TV series based of another TV series that was canceled two decades prior. Tough it out and at least live out your contract.

And for someone so "concerned" about the stigma of being a Trek actor she certainly got over it pretty damn quick.
 
Funny, but however bad or low key her character was, every since she left, the show and the fans couldn't stop talking/thinking about her.

There were dozens of references to her throughout the series.

The Tasha's daughter thing did seem a bit contrived, though it did work as shock value for a moment.

Why would Sela look and sound just like Tasha?

I can think of two good reasons to stay on the show; royalties and residuals.

I would be really, really, really, really, thankful to receive those.
 
Funny, but however bad or low key her character was, every since she left, the show and the fans couldn't stop talking/thinking about her.

Yes, but I suspect that much of this was due to the fact that, to that point, and not again until Jadzia Dax, did a major Trek character die and stay dead.
 
^ And even that is not entirely true. The timeline was modified in "Yesterday's Enterprise" and Tasha Yar lived as a result; not just during that episode but for years after on Romulus. And, of course, we saw her again in "All Good Things..." as well, even though that was just past events.
 
Yes, but I suspect that much of this was due to the fact that, to that point, and not again until Jadzia Dax, did a major Trek character die and stay dead.

CoveTom e: And even that is not entirely true. The timeline was modified in "Yesterday's Enterprise" and Tasha Yar lived as a result; not just during that episode but for years after on Romulus. And, of course, we saw her again in "All Good Things..." as well, even though that was just past events.

During season 4 they did an episode featuring her sister.
She obviously had a big impact on the show.

I always liked the Tasha character simply because she was a female tact officer. I found her character to believable and vibrant.

So what the geez constitutes more character development in an episode?

Characters like Geordi had to wait until season 3 to get an episode mainly featuring him, and he got more afterwards.

But today he is a very important iconic character, even if he wasn't the main character.

Unless the character is downright humiliating, I might just take the residuals over great character development.
 
When Yar was killed off I was disappointed as I thought she was really great, good acting and fantastic looking

Pity the years of drinking (that's what I heard, anyhow) were not good to her. :wtf:

Tru dat.. I met her in Lubbock, Tx at a small Trek Con back in the mid 90's.. She was lovely and friendly and seemed genuinely surprised when I mentioned a role she had in a small film that no one else had seen..

BUT.. I thought it was interesting that one of the auction items she brought with her was a signed, empty wine bottle from "the night before".. :)
 
If she had been on TNG for several years, that line of thinking ("I'm going to be forever associated with Star Trek, so I need to broaden my horizons") might be understandable. But, c'mon, after half a season? If she was that paranoid about being associated with Trek, why did she sign on in the first place? And, frankly, her "my character is not being used enough/properly" brings about the same response in me -- it's only been a freaking half season. Give the writers some time.

This.

She just got it in her head that she was "better" than the show and "deserved more" and then backed out of her contract. (I suspect she had a buddy-agent who sold her all of these ideas of grandeur.) The problem is that when you back out of a contract it makes your ass look bad to other potential employers making it less like producers are going to be willing to take you on to their TV series and transitioning from TV to movies is a whole other thing and you've got to have a LOT of chops and charisma to make it in movies and Crosby didn't have to weight to back it up.

David Caruso left NYPD Blue and that pretty much ruined his career for the better part of a decade before landing CSI: Miami.

You back out of your contract and all-but demand to leave a show you make your self look like a prima donna with delusions of grandeur. This is also why it's fairly common to take someone's character when the actor has backed out and kill them off or ruin the character so much that it'd be unlikely for the character to come back in any meaningful capacity. In Caruso's case he "got lucky" and his character was just railroaded so much he couldn't come back in the same capacity.

Crosby got the more likely scenario. Her character was killed off as a "Fuck you!" so she couldn't ever come back to the series. Which she deserved. Props to the show for making one of the best episodes ever (Yesterday's Enterprise) and getting her back for that one episode, a bit of a boo to them for listening to her "great idea" of bringing her back more times as the Sela character although that was a touch or two creative. But ever since leaving and not getting a great career Crosby tried shoe-horning her way back in between the Sela character and her "Trekkies" movies, she wants to think that her fans were "cheated out of her." Not the case.

Crosby, you left the show. You got itchy because after half of a damn season you weren't being focused on enough, your plot lines were lame and your screen-time was lame. It was the first fucking season of the TV series. Get over yourself.

Geordi, Worf, Troi and Crusher all were going through the same problems and they stuck it out. (To be fair to Crusher her departure had nothing to do with McFadden's feelings on her character or place on the show.)

Crosby had her head up her own ass and it made her believe she was better than everyone else and she "deserved" more after a half-season of a syndicated TV series based of another TV series that was canceled two decades prior. Tough it out and at least live out your contract.

And for someone so "concerned" about the stigma of being a Trek actor she certainly got over it pretty damn quick.
:rommie:so true!
 
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