It took a good while for the idea of Sela to make sense when TNG was on. I still find it hard to believe that she would've risen so highly being like only in her 20s. I can chalk it up to either just being that cunning and ruthless or her father being super powerful, but I wish it had been explained better. Perhaps making her father a proconsul, or praetor, or something.
I do think they wasted not bringing her back on TNG, (I would've been fine with her being on DS9 too), or for Nemesis, and especially for ST: Picard, with the fallout of the Romulan Empire factoring so much into that series. I agree with that she would've been a much more satisfying secondary antagonist than Vadic was. Though I also think her being in Donatra's role in Nemesis could've also been a nice full circle moment too. When they put Sela into the Star Trek: Defiant comic I thought it was too much fan service, but I've liked what they've done with her character there more than what I saw of her on TNG.
Fair enough. Though I'm sure she could blame the Duras family, Picard/Data, or someone else for the debacle with the Klingons. Now, it would be harder to scapegoat the failure with Spock (albeit Spock/Data were involved there too), but I'm sure they could've come up with something to give her a stay of execution. We also don't know all the other things Sela has done that might keep her alive and even influential. Perhaps it is notable that Neral survived "Unification", but we never saw or heard about Sela againUnfortunately any cunning or ruthlessness she might have had, or any nepotism at work, did nothing to show her utter incompetence in both instances of the operations she was in charge of.
Honestly, I'd be fine with her being executed for her mistakes. That would be far more realistic than what we actually saw of her.
Fair enough. Though I'm sure she could blame the Duras family, Picard/Data, or someone else for the debacle with the Klingons. Now, it would be harder to scapegoat the failure with Spock (albeit Spock/Data were involved there too), but I'm sure they could've come up with something to give her a stay of execution. We also don't know all the other things Sela has done that might keep her alive and even influential. Perhaps it is notable that Neral survived "Unification", but we never saw or heard about Sela again
When I responded, I had Donotra in mind more than Sela. But really, writing a change of heart, not to help Picard per se, but to save Romulus, would only take a few lines of dialog. Shinzon took power, but he wasn't looking out for the best interests of the Romulans. He used them as tools, but his trusted people were Remans. Sela would have recognized that. Realizing saving Picard and taking his side was the best chance to save Romulus and would put her in the position of power after Shinzon and the Remans were defeated.But knowing Sela and her interactions with Picard in the past, that’s not how it would have gone down. She would still have gotten Shinzon to attack Earth, and she would have willingly helped him try to destroy the Enterprise and kill Picard (and Data too, who had foiled her plans twice before), no matter how nuts Shinzon was.
Well, that seems a fitting end for Spock's character.I think Sela was very much more competent and powerful than we were shown, and she eventually had the Vulcan/Romulan reunification movement disbanded (with extreme prejudice).
She has Spock's head preserved in a formaldehyde jar decorating her office
First I had to discard nutrek from my headcanon (that was easy), so:
I think Sela was very much more competent and powerful than we were shown, and she eventually had the Vulcan/Romulan reunification movement disbanded (with extreme prejudice).
She has Spock's head preserved in a formaldehyde jar decorating her office
Frankly they could have blended the roles of Tal’Aura and Donatra into Sela. The idea of Sela becoming a senator later in life is entirely plausible, especially if she was given a chance to redeem herself during the Dominion War.But why would she do that? There'd have to be a compelling reason why she would help Picard other than realizing that Shinzon is nuts. Even the film leaves it super vague as to why Donatra all of a sudden decides to help the Enterprise when before she was quite ready to help Shinzon's plan to attack Earth.
Why not take Riker's place in the cut-and -paste fleet? It would not diminish the appearance of Riker and Troi earlier in the season.When would that have happened? And how? Would she have taken Riker's and his cut-and-paste fleets's place? The whole reason why Riker was even in S1 was to have him rescue Picard in the finale. Having Sela literally come out of nowhere to help Picard for no valid reason would make zero sense.
Frankly they could have blended the roles of Tal’Aura and Donatra into Sela. The idea of Sela becoming a senator later in life is entirely plausible, especially if she was given a chance to redeem herself during the Dominion War.
Sela could dislike the Romulan Senate to the point of participating in a coup and still realize that Shinzon is a mad dog off his leash. Basically, she has her own moral code to follow and red lines that should not be crossed.
Why not take Riker's place in the cut-and -paste fleet? It would not diminish the appearance of Riker and Troi earlier in the season.
If fact, Sela coming to the rescue would make for a nice callback to Picard having friends in the Romulan Empire due to the events of NEM.
The only NuTrek I like is Lower Decks
Unfortunately any cunning or ruthlessness she might have had, or any nepotism at work, did nothing to show her utter incompetence in both instances of the operations she was in charge of.
Honestly, I'd be fine with her being executed for her mistakes. That would be far more realistic than what we actually saw of her.
Not sure what that has to do with Sela?
Romulus was destroyed.
She either pillaged the Tal'Shiar's reserves as she left, and she's living fine like a princess, or she's a beggar woman off camera in a hovel during that side story Picard had with the sword kid murdering poor people.
Lower decks season 1 - 4 - 2380 - 2382.And what does that have to do with Lower Decks?
just one of the several sins of this awful series. It had some good parts, but overall it was terrible.I am sort of surprised she didn't show up in Picard, pretty much everyone else did.