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Was Reed too much of a whimp?

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Reed was written in all sorts of different ways during the course of the series, although I thought Dominick did just fine in spite of it. But Reed was no wimp overall.

He ended up being my favorite season 3 character. The scene where he took out the Reptilian guard in Zero Hour while they were on the Xindi weapon, was as kick-ass as it got for Ent up the that point.
 
The writing not withstanding, Dominic did do a great job - he's a fantastic actor. Both he and Connor as it happens, were acting against type. Scott was also, but less successfully IMHO
 
The writing not withstanding, Dominic did do a great job - he's a fantastic actor. Both he and Connor as it happens, were acting against type. Scott was also, but less successfully IMHO

Fo'sho.

My problem with Reed is the same with Trip. I like the actor and the character but feel the writers leaned too much on a one-note stereotype.

Most of the time, Reed is so stereotypically British that I'm surprised he wasn't guzzling tea by the barrel. He comes across as repressed, stiff and a dullard bound only by his oath to his duty and captain. Oh, and he's obviously more cultured because he is British.

The scene I detest the most is in the teaser for "Shuttlepod One," where Reed is reading a Vintage edition of James Joyce's Ulysses.

Reed and Trip get into some cliche sparring on how Americans only read comics and Brits are more erudite because they read "challenging" literature. The scene would've been far more interesting if they reversed the expectations of the audience.

Trip, the country bumpkin (and he was written that way for most of the show), reading that piece of modernist garbage or better yet, reading a postmodernist work like Thomas Pynchon's V. And Reed, the pompous Brit, having to admit that he's never read it and that he prefers Judge Dredd (if we are to come up with a British Superman equivalent). Or, hell, make Reed actually enjoy reading Superman comics.

Okay, the scene further grates because I had to trudge through Ulysses in my graduate program after having survived undergrad without reading that damn piece of... well, you know how I feel. Also because what's wrong with Superman comics... nothing! Rant over.

Moreover, It's hard to imagine Trip being a well-versed theoretical physicist or warp field engineer. He often comes across, especially in the first two seasons, as a redneck car garage mechanic, making bigoted comments directed at T'Pol and the Vulcans in general.
 
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Trip, the country bumpkin (and he was written that way for most of the show), reading that piece of modernist garbage or better yet, reading a postmodernist work like Thomas Pynchon's V. And Reed, the l pompous Brit, having to admit that he's never read it and that he prefers Judge Dredd (if we are to come up with a British Superman equivalent). Or, hell, make Reed actually enjoy reading Superman comics.

Moreover, It's hard to imagine Trip being a well-versed theoretical physicist or warp field engineer. He often comes across, especially in the first two seasons, as a redneck car garage mechanic, making bigoted comments directed at T'Pol and the Vulcans in general.
I don't disagree with your take on the way Trip was written, at least in the first two seasons, but the fact that he is also "well-versed theoretical physicist or warp field engineer", plays against type which is what you said you would have liked to have seen in the Shuttlepod 1 scene. Kind of a contradiction, unless I'm misreading you.
 
Trip, the country bumpkin (and he was written that way for most of the show), reading that piece of modernist garbage or better yet, reading a postmodernist work like Thomas Pynchon's V. And Reed, the l pompous Brit, having to admit that he's never read it and that he prefers Judge Dredd (if we are to come up with a British Superman equivalent). Or, hell, make Reed actually enjoy reading Superman comics.

Moreover, It's hard to imagine Trip being a well-versed theoretical physicist or warp field engineer. He often comes across, especially in the first two seasons, as a redneck car garage mechanic, making bigoted comments directed at T'Pol and the Vulcans in general.
I don't disagree with your take on the way Trip was written, at least in the first two seasons, but the fact that he is also "well-versed theoretical physicist or warp field engineer", plays against type which is what you said you would have liked to have seen in the Shuttlepod 1 scene. Kind of a contradiction, unless I'm misreading you.

Not really a contradiction.

As I said, Trip in the first couple of seasons comes across as an ignorant, bigoted mechanic. Because of that I find it hard to take the character seriously when he is shown as a capable warp engineer. Yes, it does go against type but it's undermined by the rest of the character's portrayal.
 
Anybody else remember when Reed was rumored to be the show's closet gay character and they were going to have a big reveal after making him an uber-macho, 'likes to blow stuff up' formal Brit?

Yeah, that never came to fruition.
 
Reed was B-O-R-I-N-G. One of the worst characters in Star Trek and I would not feel confident with him as my security chief. I am sure he is probably a good shot with the ships weapons, but I wouldn't feel confident if he was backing me up in a fist fight!
 
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Anybody else remember when Reed was rumored to be the show's closet gay character and they were going to have a big reveal after making him an uber-macho, 'likes to blow stuff up' formal Brit?

Yeah, that never came to fruition.

Is that what people think about us?
(well that would explain Stewie from Family Guy:rommie:)

This means that Malcolm Reed was the Felix Gaeta of ENT. And they obviously decided to drop that angle, given how Reed was portrayed in the series.
 
^Hell, they should've made Mayweather gay. At least it would've made the character (and probably the actor) interesting. Talk about glorified cardboard set dressing.
 
Anybody else remember when Reed was rumored to be the show's closet gay character and they were going to have a big reveal after making him an uber-macho, 'likes to blow stuff up' formal Brit?

Yeah, that never came to fruition.

Is that what people think about us?
(well that would explain Stewie from Family Guy:rommie:)

It's not what I think, it's just what I'd read about their intention. And Stewie was original intentionally patterned on Rex Harrison, btw.

^Hell, they should've made Mayweather gay. At least it would've made the character (and probably the actor) interesting. Talk about glorified cardboard set dressing.

Who?

Ouch. :lol:

Hey, at least that would have been something for Mayweather to do.
 
Anybody else remember when Reed was rumored to be the show's closet gay character and they were going to have a big reveal after making him an uber-macho, 'likes to blow stuff up' formal Brit?

Yeah, that never came to fruition.

Is that what people think about us?
(well that would explain Stewie from Family Guy:rommie:)

It's not what I think, it's just what I'd read about their intention. And Stewie was original intentionally patterned on Rex Harrison, btw.

^Hell, they should've made Mayweather gay. At least it would've made the character (and probably the actor) interesting. Talk about glorified cardboard set dressing.

Who?

Ouch. :lol:

Hey, at least that would have been something for Mayweather to do.


I call that double entendre right there.:rommie:

And Rexy was a Brit I think. Besides you can't have a villain without a British accent!;)(which is why I was quite surprised to find only two British Cardassians on the whole run of Trek!)
 
Is that what people think about us?
(well that would explain Stewie from Family Guy:rommie:)

It's not what I think, it's just what I'd read about their intention. And Stewie was original intentionally patterned on Rex Harrison, btw.


Ouch. :lol:

Hey, at least that would have been something for Mayweather to do.

I call that double entendre right there.:rommie:

Good eye. ;)

And Rexy was a Brit I think. Besides you can't have a villain without a British accent!;)(which is why I was quite surprised to find only two British Cardassians on the whole run of Trek!)

As far as I know Rex was a Brit, but I thought it might be some consolation that Stewie was patterned on one in particular, rather than an overall stereotype. (Then again, one might argue some of Rex's performances verged on utter stereotype...)

As to the Brit Cardassians... David Warner's Madred was one, but who was the other one? (I know I'll feel silly as soon as you tell me.)
 
It's not what I think, it's just what I'd read about their intention. And Stewie was original intentionally patterned on Rex Harrison, btw.



Ouch. :lol:

Hey, at least that would have been something for Mayweather to do.

I call that double entendre right there.:rommie:

Good eye. ;)

And Rexy was a Brit I think. Besides you can't have a villain without a British accent!;)(which is why I was quite surprised to find only two British Cardassians on the whole run of Trek!)
As far as I know Rex was a Brit, but I thought it might be some consolation that Stewie was patterned on one in particular, rather than an overall stereotype. (Then again, one might argue some of Rex's performances verged on utter stereotype...)

As to the Brit Cardassians... David Warner's Madred was one, but who was the other one? (I know I'll feel silly as soon as you tell me.)

John Vickery as Gul 'I guess I touched a nerve' Rusot.

And yes you should :p.
 
Anybody else remember when Reed was rumored to be the show's closet gay character and they were going to have a big reveal after making him an uber-macho, 'likes to blow stuff up' formal Brit?

Yeah, that never came to fruition.

Is that what people think about us?
(well that would explain Stewie from Family Guy:rommie:)

This means that Malcolm Reed was the Felix Gaeta of ENT. And they obviously decided to drop that angle, given how Reed was portrayed in the series.


GAH! Man, this is the kind of stereotype that annoys me so much because it's NOT.TRUE.

Reed was a fucking mug. And sort of psychotic.

Stewie, on the other hand, and his fake accent, rock. :lol:
 
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