Was pretty excited for this show.. but ultimately underwhelmed...

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Dar70, May 4, 2020.

  1. EnderAKH

    EnderAKH Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    File the serial numbers off of it, and that would be a very interesting universe to play around in.
     
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  2. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, but those came out in the '80s, so it's okay.
     
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  3. fireproof78

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    Yes, Trek is clearly not going to use that now. That would just be ridiculous ;)
     
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  4. Lord Garth

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    I'm so confused! I wish the other side would hurry up and make up its mind. Is Picard supposed to be "cutting edge" or more like TNG? :whistle:
     
  5. Kpnuts

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    Nowhere near as bad as what Picard did and you know it.
     
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    Creators and writers of this show sure know how to make many fans angry.

    At first Stewart wasn't even interested in returning as Picard. (right?)
    After discussions and storyline ideas Stewart gets interested. Go team.
    Without Stewart this show wouldn't exist.
    After getting him to do the show, which may not have been obvious at some point (?), they kill his beloved character.
    Also, not just Picard, lets kill some other fan favourites too. Many fans like Data. Lets kill Data because the actor doesn't want to do this character anymore.
    There was this character called Hugh in some episodes of TNG. Lets kill him too. Remember that nasty cyborg brain engineer in season 2? He won't return to play the role but a lot of facial hair and it's the same guy, right? Lets kill him too. Lets kill fan favourites from great episodes, as many as possible so the earlier episodes of TNG just aren't the same anymore.

    So, the people in charge got a retiree to return even if he wasn't interested at first and then killed his character. No wait, there's a copy of him. Well, copy yeah, not exactly the same as original but we can make him do things real Picard might not do. Lets make Picard do things that might irritate some people and say "hey, it's not really Picard, is it?"

    What a stupid mess. I haven't visited the series and after reading things about it I'm not very interested, if not at all interested. But hey, this is a thread for this kind of stuff?
     
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  7. fireproof78

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    Why not watch it and judge for yourself? I can admit my bias, and others are biased too, both for and against, based upon their preferences in Star Trek.

    To me, all the things done in Picard have been done in past Trek, from Picard's death, to struggles with AI and Romulan threats. There only difference is in execution.
     
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  8. EnderAKH

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    Psssst...he was already dead.... They killed him in Nemesis.....
     
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    No, I don't know it. How is it any different? Please, elaborate.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Picard did it so its bad.
     
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    Because one is showing a person transported between two points.

    And the other is having a person die and then get reborn in an artificial body, with whatever life expectancy he or she wants.

    99% of viewers watching the show will never even consider the former as "solving death" when that's literally the only thing the latter is.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    But, that is the implication of both transporter technology and various other tech demonstrated in Trek. The transporter is show reversing aging, or increasing aging (in Rascals), the Genesis formula can revive a person, etc.

    Picard's solution is keeping inline with past Trek tech. Except, it's actually exploring the implications of a transhuman approach, rather than filing it away for later.
     
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  13. Pubert

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    right Picard died and that was it for him. The copy of him which is a “mapped image” as copy data explained is just that a copy put in a android body. So basically the real Picard actually died and if there is a afterlife he is there. This new copy if Picard will just stop once the mechanics stop working and that’s it.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Cool. Spock died too then. #notrealSpock.
     
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    no Spock still had his real body and brain. Picard has some kind of computer housing a copy of his memories. Not even a organic brain.
     
  16. fireproof78

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    But it wasn't his. It had been regrown by the Genesis effect so not the real Spock.
     
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    no the genesis effect deaged the body and rejuvenated it.
     
  18. EnderAKH

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    Not to mention, it was a copy of his consciousness. It was copied to McCoy, then that copy was copied to NuSpock. Functionally there is no difference, except the copy was kept in an bio-organic receptical instead of a synthetic receptical.
     
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    So we are told but that doesn't mean the body wasn't change, since the bacteria on his casket were changed.
    Man, and I thought downloading work manuals was bad. Downloading my consciousness? That speed was be ridiculous.
     
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  20. Lord Garth

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    When Patrick Stewart passes away, a lot of you will suddenly appreciate this series more as one his later if not last performances. Then you'll realize how you come off right now and that you didn't appreciate what was in front of you while it was still around because all you can see is in the moment and winning some stupid internet debate.