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Was Deep Space Nine Politically Correct? - Precedence for Future Star Trek?

Been a fan of Deep Space 9 since day 1 and this is the first I've ever heard that Brooks and some cast members weren't getting along. Shows how professional everyone was for keeping their personal feelings separate from their working lives.
 
More spread out I guess. No real bridge set, so not as many scenes of all the main characters together, so different working schedules probably. There was a shot of six of the main characters at the end of Shadows and Symbols that reminded me of some TOS and TNG scenes. I can't think of any scenes with the entire main credited cast.
 
More spread out I guess. No real bridge set, so not as many scenes of all the main characters together, so different working schedules probably. There was a shot of six of the main characters at the end of Shadows and Symbols that reminded me of some TOS and TNG scenes. I can't think of any scenes with the entire main credited cast.

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First, I’d like to say Deep Space Nine was a work of art, if you binge watch from first to last, instead of remembering week to week views…

Yet, I do have to wonder about… The fact that Star Trek does tend to have alien races represent political occurrences, it sure seems that way…


As such, based on nose structure, the Ferengi feels like the most offensive example I can think of…

Wiki: The Ferengi and their culture are characterized by an extreme mercantile obsession with profit, trade, and exploitation for gain, in which greed, extortion and scamming are considered praiseworthy behaviors and acquisition is raised to the status of a near-religion.


And it felt like, the justification that Ferengi wasn’t a metaphor for anti-Semitic descriptions, was the story of the beautiful Bajorans


Then again, it felt like there was the same attempt between Deep Space Nine crews and Klingons…

I’m guessing the core formula is:

If I’m human, I’m not allowed to be Klingon

If I wanted to emphasize with the Klingon then I’d be imagining I was them, which I am not allowed to do

Thereby empathy towards Klingons is punished, as it does not represent them and their beliefs.


I’ve been imagining creating alien cultures, and I have to admit, the formulations of … birth by self through redesign of cybernetic self, as a means of new emerged self procreation… these are the concepts that float by my mind and feel enjoyable now… Etc.


It’s like 7 of 9, I think I’d have made 7 of Nine realize that her designation was like council to Queen, as they all connect so Borg Queen has fuller conscious, so within Voyager capturing 7 of 9, they’d have gained a literal fraction of all borg technology… and then made it maybe more about the borg universe… yet maybe writers thought… naa .. its own series


Anyhow cheers


So what you're saying is that Jewish people have physical noses like the Ferengi.

Maybe YOU are the anti-Semite.
 
Didn't Take Me Out to The Holosuite feature the whole cast on the field and in Quark's at the end?

Odo wasn't their until the final game as umpire. Not sure about the very end but Sisko tossing the baseball up in the air would have been a cool hook moment.

Jason
 
The final scene at Quark's isn't a great one for a group gathering because you can clearly see it ain't Dorn playing Worf, it's his double. I mean, Worf is still in the scene, but you know...only sort of. :) (Same goes for Odo, if I recall correctly.)
 
I got to say I still think the "Badda Bing" was the best choice. It's the slow mode strut that really sales it. Not exactly the walking scene in "Resevoir Dogs" but it's still very nice.

Jason
 
The final scene at Quark's isn't a great one for a group gathering because you can clearly see it ain't Dorn playing Worf, it's his double. I mean, Worf is still in the scene, but you know...only sort of. :) (Same goes for Odo, if I recall correctly.)
I have never noticed. I might have to get it on and take a closer look.

Its for stuff like this that we need HD DS9!!!!
 
DS9 worked to flesh out the likes of the Ferengi, Bajorans, Cardassians and Trill in a way TNG never did. They each have their core beliefs but how members of their respective species approached them varied, giving nuance and differing perspectives (e.g. Quark is a "stereotypical" Ferengi, who is looking to gouge his customers and exploit his workforce for his own good, but even that softens over time; Rom wants to do the same, but realises his family is more important and embarks on doing what he wants; Nog comes to the realisation he is much like his father so wants to do something meaningful with his life by joining Starfleet; even Zek, the most Ferengi Ferengi in the series shows his progressive side by extending rights to females).

I wonder if most Ferengi we see on DS9 are somewhat atypical or that there's more flexibility in Ferengi society than TNG and early DS9 leads us to believe.... Late-DS9-Quark must be unusually kind and generous for Ferengi standards, Rom and Nog aren't typical, Moogie is a financial genius but doesn't appear ruthless, and even Zek has his nice sides in the end. The only "semi-regular" Ferengi that everyone (even the other Ferengi) still loves to hate at the end is Brunt- and exactly how Ferengi is he if he admits to quark that his quest for getting Quark isn't business but personal?
 
I wonder if most Ferengi we see on DS9 are somewhat atypical or that there's more flexibility in Ferengi society than TNG and early DS9 leads us to believe.... Late-DS9-Quark must be unusually kind and generous for Ferengi standards, Rom and Nog aren't typical, Moogie is a financial genius but doesn't appear ruthless, and even Zek has his nice sides in the end. The only "semi-regular" Ferengi that everyone (even the other Ferengi) still loves to hate at the end is Brunt- and exactly how Ferengi is he if he admits to quark that his quest for getting Quark isn't business but personal?

Good question, we don't see a good example of what normal Ferengi believe on the homeworld.

The fact all those reforms happened over two or three years suggests that there are in fact a lot of people who don't like basically being slaves to the wealthy, just they have no power to affect change until Ishka gets in Zek's ear. They get accused of not being "Real Ferengi" just like certain politicians say some people are not "Real Americans".

Maybe that's why the anti-union laws are so strict, people in charge know for a fact people *do* feel that way and if they're given even the slightest bit of leeway they'll spread to mainstream.
 
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^Interesting thought, I've often thought the same thing about Klingons ... that all those warriors concerned with honour and such are in fact only an upper caste that grabbed power in Klingon society, and that 'ordinary' Klingons might much more like ordinary humans in their attitudes. Same story for the Cardassians.
 
^Interesting thought, I've often thought the same thing about Klingons ... that all those warriors concerned with honour and such are in fact only an upper caste that grabbed power in Klingon society, and that 'ordinary' Klingons might much more like ordinary humans in their attitudes. Same story for the Cardassians.

Yes. There must be some Klingon office workers and cooks (and good for DS9 for letting us see the charismatic cook in the Klingon restaurant). Something besides honor in combat must be motivating them.
 
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