Was a slayer called at the end of Season 5?
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When asked at the time, Whedon said that the slayer line now went through Faith. Technically, Buffy had been an 'extra' Slayer since her first death in Season 1 passed the chosen-ness on to Kendra.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
And when she was brought back to life a second time (or possibly even the first time, it was never clear), circumventing the normal one-dies-another-is-called process, that caused a glitch in the system that allowed the First to identify the potential slayers and begin eliminating them.
Whedon repeatedly admitted that he fudged his own continuity when it serves the story.
Remember season 7 and the Turok Han? A single one almost kills Buffy and the entire group yet during the final episode they are killed by the dozens as if they were normal, "weak" Vampires.
Remember season 7 and the Turok Han? A single one almost kills Buffy and the entire group yet during the final episode they are killed by the dozens as if they were normal, "weak" Vampires.
Why is a "glitch" required for the First's plan to work, though ? Surely if he kills all of the Potentials, then Faith and Buffy then the Slayer line has nowhere to go.
The larger problem, for me, is the size of the task. When Willow changes the rules, we see girls (a considerable bone of contention with the premise of the show for me) all over the world become Slayers. If anything, Buffy was helping the first by gathering up as many Potentials as she could in to one house.
I thought the idea of "potentials" was a little weird to begin with, especially with as many as there ended up being all over the world.
Here's a question. The slayer is always a young girl. Do these potentials stop being potentials when they get too old?
Also, prior to Willow's tinkering with the rules, how was the next Slayer chosen? Buffy seemed to be Chosen because her destiny lead her to the Hellmouth. She obviously played the most historic role of any previous Slayer. But why was the next one Kendra? Why Faith? Of all the potentials all around the world, why them?
I'd really like to have a talk with TPTB.
Here's a question. The slayer is always a young girl. Do these potentials stop being potentials when they get too old?
Also, prior to Willow's tinkering with the rules, how was the next Slayer chosen? Buffy seemed to be Chosen because her destiny lead her to the Hellmouth. She obviously played the most historic role of any previous Slayer. But why was the next one Kendra? Why Faith? Of all the potentials all around the world, why them?
I'd really like to have a talk with TPTB.
The whole potentials thing is ripped from the Spike And Dru novel anyway, which I'm sure came out around the time of season 5
Just another reason why I hated how Buffy was on her high horse about how she was the Slayer, even after Faith was back in Sunnydale.
I'd imagine that there is some sort of "age limit". It seems that a slayer is chosen when she is in her prime, so I can't imagine a 50 year old slayer being called.
I remember that Buffy by the end of the series was supposed to be one of if not the oldest slayer in history. Though Nikki Wood kinda looked older...
The youngest and oldest Potentials to be called were 12 (softball Slayer) and 24 (Dana--was 25 in Damage).
Nikki was 18 when she was pregnant with Robin (during her Cruciamentum), who was born in 1972. She was a Slayer from 1970-1977.
F.Y.I. I compiled the majority of this Slayer timeline: http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Slayer_timeline
But yeah, the real Slayer line flows through Faith. Buffy ceased to have anything to do with the Slayer line when she died in Prophecy Girl. The First needed Buffy to die again to cause further disruption to the line (which is why the First attempted to release Angelus in Amends and why the First reemerged after The Gift). Of course, after Buffy's actions, it has been disrupted and there is about 200 years where there is no Slayer. This is where the twins, Melaka and Harth Fray, come in.
Nikki was 18 when she was pregnant with Robin (during her Cruciamentum), who was born in 1972. She was a Slayer from 1970-1977.
F.Y.I. I compiled the majority of this Slayer timeline: http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Slayer_timeline
But yeah, the real Slayer line flows through Faith. Buffy ceased to have anything to do with the Slayer line when she died in Prophecy Girl. The First needed Buffy to die again to cause further disruption to the line (which is why the First attempted to release Angelus in Amends and why the First reemerged after The Gift). Of course, after Buffy's actions, it has been disrupted and there is about 200 years where there is no Slayer. This is where the twins, Melaka and Harth Fray, come in.
Yeah that's kind of what I was implying. They 'called' slayers at a pretty young age because they figured they wouldn't last long. Better to catch them in their peak physical capability. Also the fact that they are young makes them much more subservient to the council's will.
Of course Buffy defied both of those trends.
Yeah, I just kind of rolled my eyes when Buffy informed the Potentials that "[her] death could make one of you the next Slayer." I'll just pretend it was her trying to drive the gravity of the situation into them, rather than her being her usual self-important self. 
If the Potentials hadn't all been activated, Faith would have had to have died for one of them to be called.
If the Potentials hadn't all been activated, Faith would have had to have died for one of them to be called.
I'd imagine that there is some sort of "age limit". It seems that a slayer is chosen when she is in her prime, so I can't imagine a 50 year old slayer being called.
Didn't Kennedy say something to that effect? That she was worried she was getting too old and was going to miss her chance at becoming a Slayer?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
I remember reading a semi-explanation that maybe the First picked out one of the baddest, toughest Turok-Han to be first out to show off.
Whether that works or not it's up to you
I'd imagine that there is some sort of "age limit". It seems that a slayer is chosen when she is in her prime, so I can't imagine a 50 year old slayer being called.
Didn't Kennedy say something to that effect? That she was worried she was getting too old and was going to miss her chance at becoming a Slayer?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Kennedy talked? I just kind of heard an annoying buzzing when she was onscreen.
I'm pretty sure all she did was squawk "I'm a lesbian!" the whole time.I'd imagine that there is some sort of "age limit". It seems that a slayer is chosen when she is in her prime, so I can't imagine a 50 year old slayer being called.
Didn't Kennedy say something to that effect? That she was worried she was getting too old and was going to miss her chance at becoming a Slayer?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Kennedy talked? I just kind of heard an annoying buzzing when she was onscreen.
IIRC, it was explained that Buffy was exhausted and running on empty when she took on that Turok Han.
As for the line continuing through Faith, I think that Buffy was right to feel that she was still The Slayer since she might have been dead at one time (or more) but she still lived. She was the slayer before Faith, not to mention longer than Faith. Why wouldn't she feel that she was still the slayer, especially after Faith proved to be unreliable?
I'd imagine that there is some sort of "age limit". It seems that a slayer is chosen when she is in her prime, so I can't imagine a 50 year old slayer being called.
Didn't Kennedy say something to that effect? That she was worried she was getting too old and was going to miss her chance at becoming a Slayer?
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Kennedy talked? I just kind of heard an annoying buzzing when she was onscreen.
Ha!
But yes, she did say something about the age at which one can become a Slayer. IIRC, one of the other Potentials said, "I couldn't become the next Slayer, could I? I mean, I'm too young." Kennedy replied, "Doesn't work that way. The younger, the better. In fact, I'm starting to think it may be too late for me."
As for the OP, it sure doesn't seem like another Slayer was called when Buffy died the second time. Apparently, no one on the show noticed, however, which is about the only way to explain why people kept saying Buffy would have to die for one of the Potentials to be called.
Right, never mind that didn't happen last time.I even recall the First telling Buffy, "It's too bad you have to die before any of those girls can know real power", or something to that effect. On that subject, we never found out just how the First was able to find a weakness in the Slayer line (caused by Buffy's resurrection, according to that eyeball-thingy) and exploit it. There were a lot of unanswered questions and apparent continuity flubs in the final season, not to mention the abundance of annoying new characters.
Gah! Season 7. You know, I should watch it again one of these days, just to see if it's as bad as I remember, or if it's better the second time around. Of course, I'm sure it was still better than most stuff on TV... but I felt it was a letdown. I guess I expected more from Buffy.
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