Warner Bros. Circling David Ayer for DC Comics’ ‘Suicide Squad’
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I hadn't heard about Joker possibly cameoing in BvS, but I have seen photos of Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne on the Suicide Squad set, and supposedly another of him in his Batman costume (he was covered in a blanket and being led around by crew members).
Everything I see about this movie makes me less and less interested. I really do not care about anything DC is trying to do right now.
Honestly? I've never been that interested in the Suicide Squad, but I'm somehow more curious about this movie than I am about Batman v Superman y Tu Justice League Tambien. They got my interest as soon as they cast Viola Davis as Waller. And the images I've seen coming out of the production have looked interesting -- a bit garish, maybe, but I don't mind that in comic-book movies. They're trying something different from the usual superhero movie (though I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to knock off Guardians of the Galaxy with a team of misfit criminals as the heroes), and that's kind of interesting.
The Sinister Six spinoff doesn't make much sense, because the Six only exist as adversaries for Spider-Man, so there's not much point in having them stand alone. But the Suicide Squad have existed as protagonists in their own right for decades, and John Ostrander's run on the book is one of the most acclaimed titles of the '80s. This is a concept with a lot of history and a lot of promising material to draw on.
I'm looking forward to seeing a team movie set in the DC universe with Joker and Harley Quinn and Deadshot and Killer Croc and Captain Boomerang. The other characters I'm less familiar with. While they're unfortunately using the New 52 costume, I'm really excited to a live action Harley Quinn. And I'm really curious about Jared Leto as the Joker.
I wouldn't call it the New 52 costume, since she actually has a shirt on rather than just fetish lingerie (or the orange and black roller-derby thing she has going on in the more recent stuff). But yeah, the overall aesthetic is more in the vein of the New 52 and the Arkham games than the classic design. But I'm not sure the classic design would've translated well to live action.
I'm also less than interested in a Sinister Six, especially after suffering through the last three Spider-Man movies.
But intrigued by this because a) like principal cast (Smith, Leto, Robbie) who are all very watchable), b) enjoyed director Ayer's Fury and the much-derided Sabotage, which for all its faults was a damned good ensemble caper, and c) not knowing anything about SS, watched the animated Assault On Arkham, which was a pretty fun mission movie and introduction to characters for neophyte like myself.
Suicide Squad at least makes sense. They are roguish heroes. Sinister Six would literally be a movie from the perspective of the bad guys, possibly not involving the good guy at all.
Eh? Unless they changed the basic premise - most of these are straight up badguys who are forced to work for the govt - surely they might occasionally do a good thing but they are still murderers and sociopaths.
But the occasionally do good things will be the thing they do in the movie. I'm not saying they're actually good guys. I'm saying, for the purpose of the movie, they're good guys. If you want, they're antiheroes at Hollywood considers the term. My point wasn't you have to like or care for them, it's that their role makes sense in a traditional story narrative.
There should be a redemption theme in the movie, though. My money's on Deadshot, but Will Smith would never play a straight-up villain anyway,
Kills my interest - the Suicide Squad premise offers the opportunity to do something a little different.
Mind you, I've never see anyone But John Ostrander write a good deadshot - Gail Simone's was too soft.
While I'm highly skeptical of the idea of a Sinister Six movie, I'm not sure how much the performance of the previous Spidey movies should be a factor, given that S6 has a different writer and director (although the same producers as ASM2).
Indeed, The Sinister Six is being written and directed by Drew Goddard, the guy who made Cabin in the Woods and wrote the first two episodes of Daredevil. So it may well be amazing despite the unlikelihood of the premise.
Drew Goddard's premise was ... interesting. However, the heavy use of Spider-Man in it probably helped (although, to me, that defeated the point of having Sinister Six).
I'm keeping an open mind on this movie. The casting is pretty good, apart from Jai Courtney (if he proves me wrong, I'll be quite happy to eat my words). At present though, the garish and stylised look of the characters seems somewhat at odds with MOS's supposedly more grounded take on things. I wonder if BvS: DOJ will start laying down the groundwork for a more fantastical universe?
Is Joker part of the actual Suicide Squad? I thought the fan theory at the moment was that he was going to be the villain?