Warner bros announce superhero films through 2020

[JD]

IGN just pointed out something that hadn't occured to me, the Flash movie will be the third adaptation of Flashpoint since it came out in 2011. Is there no other Flash story arc they could look to for inspiration?

There's a story going around saying that WB is looking at WWE wrestler John Cena and Galavant star Johnathan Sasse for Shazam. I haven't seen Cena in anything so I don't know if he'd be any good, but I did really like Sasse on Galavant. The story also includes the descriptions for Shazam and Billy Batson, and both are true to the comics, so it sounds like they'll at least be sticking to the core elements of the character(s).

 

[dahj]

IGN just pointed out something that hadn't occured to me, the Flash movie will be the third adaptation of Flashpoint since it came out in 2011.

The animated version is a pretty faithful adaptation of the comic, and the TV series version was totally different, save the premise. The movie version will be different than either of them, so I don't see a problem with that.

Is there no other Flash story arc they could look to for inspiration?

Well unlike all the other slated DCEU heroes, Flash has a fairly popular TV show currently airing that's been mining the Flash stories and villains for 3 years (and will for a few more before the movie comes out).
If you're counting TV's Flashpoint as "something they've already done", there won't be much left that hasn't been done in one form or another...

 

[kirk55555]

IGN just pointed out something that hadn't occured to me, the Flash movie will be the third adaptation of Flashpoint since it came out in 2011. Is there no other Flash story arc they could look to for inspiration?

There's a story going around saying that WB is looking at WWE wrestler John Cena and Galavant star Johnathan Sasse for Shazam. I haven't seen Cena in anything so I don't know if he'd be any good, but I did really like Sasse on Galavant. The story also includes the descriptions for Shazam and Billy Batson, and both are true to the comics, so it sounds like they'll at least be sticking to the core elements of the character(s).

Unfortunately those descriptions are very vague. Based on the descriptions he could be the unheroic asshole whose first act as a hero was to shake down the first person he saved for money (yes that actually happened, because Heoff Johns is one of the shittiest "Shazam" writers in the character's history) just as easily as he could be the teen who, despite his circumstances, has a heart of gold (which doesn't mean he's perfect, buthe's not some angsty prick and has a naturally good, heroic demeanor). I prefer the heroic Billy obviously, which was the character from 1939 until 2011. but this is 2017 and angsty YA assholes rule the day, so I'm sure we'll see this "Shazam" make Cavill's Superman look like Reeves Superman when it comes to being a hero.

As for the rumored actors to play the hero, neither have the right look but I guess I'd go with Joshua Sasse just because I don't think Cena is a great actor and I can't see him in the role. He's no Rock and unlike Batista he doesn't fit the role almost perfectly despite his acting ability. Joshua Sasse is way too small and doesn't look right but at least he's an actor.

 

[JD]

I'm pretty sure there has been some stuff from the 61 year history of Barry Allen, or if we go for all of the Flashes then that wold be 78 years, that the show hasn't touched yet.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Unfortunately those descriptions are very vague. Based on the descriptions he could be the unheroic asshole whose first act as a hero was to shake down the first person he saved for money (yes that actually happened, because Heoff Johns is one of the shittiest "Shazam" writers in the character's history) just as easily as he could be the teen who, despite his circumstances, has a heart of gold (which doesn't mean he's perfect, buthe's not some angsty prick and has a naturally good, heroic demeanor). I prefer the heroic Billy obviously, which was the character from 1939 until 2011. but this is 2017 and angsty YA assholes rule the day, so I'm sure we'll see this "Shazam" make Cavill's Superman look like Reeves Superman when it comes to being a hero.

As for the rumored actors to play the hero, neither have the right look but I guess I'd go with Joshua Sasse just because I don't think Cena is a great actor and I can't see him in the role. He's no Rock and unlike Batista he doesn't fit the role almost perfectly despite his acting ability. Joshua Sasse is way too small and doesn't look right but at least he's an actor.

I think this guy has the look. Ryan Paevey As does Steven Strait from the Expanse.

 

[Gaith]

I'm pretty sure there has been some stuff from the 61 year history of Barry Allen, or if we go for all of the Flashes then that wold be 78 years, that the show hasn't touched yet.

Aye, but how many of those stories can be used to time-scramble the DCEU and wipe whole movies/actors out of continuity? If Justice League makes $1bn+ and is a critical hit, WB may not go with a Flashpoint script. (I imagine they're working on several simultaneously, to some degree.) If it doesn't do either or both of those things, time to wave the magic plot-resetting wand.

 

[kirk55555]

I think this guy has the look. Ryan Paevey As does Steven Strait from the Expanse.

Well, they're better then the two choices being talked about. Honestly Captain Marvel has such an iconic look in the comics, but its almost impossible for it to work in live action. I kind of imagined him with more of the "square jawed" look then any of the actors listed have, but besides that it is a casting I don't think can ever really be "perfect".

 

[JD]

Aye, but how many of those stories can be used to time-scramble the DCEU and wipe whole movies/actors out of continuity? If Justice League makes $1bn+ and is a critical hit, WB may not go with a Flashpoint script. (I imagine they're working on several simultaneously, to some degree.) If it doesn't do either or both of those things, time to wave the magic plot-resetting wand.

We don't know for a fact that that's what their doing with this. I honestly hope it isn't, while the DCEU could do for some changes we're still early enough into the history that they could start tweaking things here and there without a total continuity reset.
Even if they did want to do that, they could still find a way to do it without going to a story that's already been adapted twice in five years.

 

[Christopher]

Even if they did want to do that, they could still find a way to do it without going to a story that's already been adapted twice in five years.

Yeah... but Flashpoint was Geoff Johns's story, and Geoff Johns is the one guiding DC films and TV.

 

[dahj]

Flashpoint isn't about rebooting the universe.

They're not gonna do a whole movie that does nothing except sets up the next ones.

They're not Marvel.

 

[Christopher]

They're not gonna do a whole movie that does nothing except sets up the next ones.

They already did. It was called Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. The subtitle alone is a dead giveaway that the movie is meant as a Justice League prologue.

But hopefully they've learned from their mistake and won't do it again.

 

[dahj]

But hopefully they've learned from their mistake and won't do it again.

If they make "mistakes" like BvS, I hope they do

 

[Christopher]

If they make "mistakes" like BvS, I hope they do

But you just insisted that they wouldn't, as if you thought it was a bad thing that only Marvel did. Now suddenly you're in favor of it? Make up your mind.

 

[Turtletrekker]

They're not Marvel.

Too bad.

 

[dahj]

But you just insisted that they wouldn't, as if you thought it was a bad thing that only Marvel did. Now suddenly you're in favor of it? Make up your mind.

<- this is an emoticon that indicates the poster is being cheeky or playful.

Your response sounds neither cheeky, nor playful, nor particularly pleasant.
Might wanna check that.

Too bad.

That's cheeky and acceptable.

 

[Gaith]

Your response sounds neither cheeky, nor playful, nor particularly pleasant.
Might wanna check that.

You're the one borderline trolling us with short, substance-free jabs at something you're in the minority of not liking, pal. Post #1152 was clearly designed to piss people off at worst, and annoy many of them at best.

Flashpoint isn't about rebooting the universe.

Seeing as the movie hasn't even been assigned a release date yet, how do you know what it's about? You don't, so spare us your citation-free guesses presented as fact.

 

[dahj]

^^
Ain't you a ray of sunshine.
Right, so for the wholly humorless here...

If Justice League makes $1bn+ and is a critical hit, WB may not go with a Flashpoint script. (I imagine they're working on several simultaneously, to some degree.) If it doesn't do either or both of those things, time to wave the magic plot-resetting wand.

You implied that the only reason they would do Flashpoint is to reboot the universe, and if they weren't going to reboot they wouldn't do Flashpoint because you seem to think there's no reason to do that story otherwise.

My comment referred to that that with two sentences:

Flashpoint isn't about rebooting the universe.
They're not gonna do a whole movie that does nothing except sets up the next ones.

First, that the Flashpoint story(the existing one, in the comics) isn't about rebooting the universe, that's what happens in the post credits scene, if you will, but the story itself isn't about that.
The second sentence was meant to stress the point that the studio wouldn't waste a whole movie just with that idea in mind.

As I typed the second one I realized that is one of most common criticisms of Marvel movies.

They're not Marvel.

So I typed the third one, and here's the apparently foreign idea to some, as a joke. You know jokes, right?
I even added an emoticon for those struggling with the concept... not sure what else I could have done except written "THIS IS A JOKE" right next to it

You basically ignored the point of the previous two sentences, and focused on the joke bit as some perceived slight. So I won't make that mistake again, next time you state something completely ridiculous like that, I won't try to make the conversation lighter, I'll just go dracarys on your bullshit...

 

[Turtletrekker]

#triggered

 

[dahj]

#triggered

#likeamarvelfanboy

 

[Turtletrekker]

Whatever you say. I don't feel compelled to disagree and argue with every negative statement made about Marvel movies. Hell I even agree with a lot of them. On the other hand, you can set your clock by how quickly you come in to defend DC movies if anyone says anything negative about them. So who's really the fanboy?