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Warner bros announce superhero films through 2020

I wonder, will they go for classic supersize Amanda Waller or modern supermodel Amanda Waller? They'll probably go for someone svelte and hot like Zoe Saldana or something, but I've been thinking lately that Viola Davis would be an effective Waller. She's got the strength and presence for the role, and though she's nowhere near the classic Waller's size, she at least avoids the skinny-supermodel template.
 
I'd love to see a Suicide Squad featuring some supervillains I've actually heard of before, but most of the versions I've seen feature characters I've barely even heard of, and couldn't care less about (save Harley, of course, but she's not quite enough to make me want to watch).
 
I wonder, will they go for classic supersize Amanda Waller or modern supermodel Amanda Waller? They'll probably go for someone svelte and hot like Zoe Saldana or something, but I've been thinking lately that Viola Davis would be an effective Waller. She's got the strength and presence for the role, and though she's nowhere near the classic Waller's size, she at least avoids the skinny-supermodel template.

Viola Davis would make a fantastic Waller.
 
Waller is such a great character, and I'd love to see a more comics-accurate version on the big screen.
 
Waller is such a great character, and I'd love to see a more comics-accurate version on the big screen.

That's the thing, though. With the New 52 they turned Waller into the supermodel-sized version that also appears on "Arrow". So, comics-accurate is not specific enough. Original big Amanda "The Wall" Waller, or recent standart mainstream comics/Hollywood Amanda "Halle Berry could play me in a movie, even though she's already played two different superhero characters" Waller.

You may have guessed, it's one of the many things I don't like about the New 52.
 
Would stop the JLA film (if GL appears in one of them) looking like a meeting of the Aryan Brotherhood.

Remember, Jason Momoa is playing Aquaman, and Ray Fisher will be appearing as Cyborg in Batman v Superman and presumably the Justice League and Cyborg films. So the film JL already has some ethnic diversity built in.
 
Waller is such a great character, and I'd love to see a more comics-accurate version on the big screen.

That's the thing, though. With the New 52 they turned Waller into the supermodel-sized version that also appears on "Arrow". So, comics-accurate is not specific enough. Original big Amanda "The Wall" Waller, or recent standart mainstream comics/Hollywood Amanda "Halle Berry could play me in a movie, even though she's already played two different superhero characters" Waller.

You may have guessed, it's one of the many things I don't like about the New 52.

Good point. I sometimes catch myself acting as though comics were frozen in time sometime between 1986 and 1999 (when I was at the height of my reading/collecting) . To clarify: what I want to see on the big screen is old school Amanda Waller.
 
Would stop the JLA film (if GL appears in one of them) looking like a meeting of the Aryan Brotherhood.

Remember, Jason Momoa is playing Aquaman, and Ray Fisher will be appearing as Cyborg in Batman v Superman and presumably the Justice League and Cyborg films. So the film JL already has some ethnic diversity built in.

Well, Momoa may be mixed-race, but he isn't necessarily perceived as such. Remember, he was cast as Conan, and looked the part.
As for Cyborg, Edward Douglas of ComingSoon.net has written about that:

Edward Douglas said:
I've lived in New York City for decades and I know and have talked to more than a few black and Latino comic book fans in comic shops and on the subway in that time, and I don't think any of them have ever said, "Man, I wish they'd give Cyborg his own movie!" No, it's more than likely that long-time comic readers see Black Panther and Luke Cage and in some ways, The Falcon, as the black superheroes that deserve their own movies or shows. Warner Bros. announcing a movie starring Cyborg is not going to push Marvel to move any faster on a Black Panther movie than they already have been. Trust me on this. Maybe a younger generation has embraced Cyborg from the Teen Titans cartoon that I don't know about, but it still seems like an odd choice. (The same can be said for Ms. Marvel who isn't nearly as well known as Wonder Woman among the general populace.)

I'm not even going to comment too much on the 2020 plan for a new Green Lantern movie, presumably a reboot with whichever poor actor whose agent doesn't remember how starring in the previous Green Lantern movie hurt Ryan Reynolds' career. If nine years is the statute of limitations on trying to revive a character on the big screen for new audiences after a bad movie, then we're eight years behind on a new Steel movie. (At this point, we don't even know if the Green Lantern in question is Hal Jordan or John Stewart, who would in fact appeal to an urban audience, probably more than Cyborg.)

ComingSoon.net|The Battle Cry: Is Warner Bros.' New DC Line-Up a Good Thing?

Now, as a German-born living in Germany never even having been in the U.S. before, I would not dare presume to know whether there was any truth to that, but it does sound plausible, in that Cyborg isn't anywhere near being an icon. DC, even in the New 52, has yet to try the character in a regular solo title, and that is far less risky financially than a movie. John Stewart, on the other hand, was the Green Lantern a whole generation grew up with on the JL cartoon, and even before and after that he's been a popular character not just with African-Americans, but with other demographics as well (including this white German fanboy). Cyborg works best as a team member (preferredly member of the Titans).

Let's face it, Cyborg being included in the movie line-up has more to do with Geoff Johns turning him into his Mary Sue than with the actual appeal of the character.
 
I'm not quite so convinced that it will be John as GL. Yeah, the bad taste of the Reynolds movie is still there, but so far this lineup is going to be the Johns lineup, and swapping Hal for John would break that. Really, though John was used in the cartoon, Hal is the Green Lantern. Personally I would prefer Hal. His cocky attitude would make for a much more fun interactions than the steely and serious John Stewart. There will be plenty of serious people in the movies already.
 
Would stop the JLA film (if GL appears in one of them) looking like a meeting of the Aryan Brotherhood.

Remember, Jason Momoa is playing Aquaman, and Ray Fisher will be appearing as Cyborg in Batman v Superman and presumably the Justice League and Cyborg films. So the film JL already has some ethnic diversity built in.

Well, Momoa may be mixed-race, but he isn't necessarily perceived as such. Remember, he was cast as Conan, and looked the part.
As for Cyborg, Edward Douglas of ComingSoon.net has written about that:

Edward Douglas said:
I've lived in New York City for decades and I know and have talked to more than a few black and Latino comic book fans in comic shops and on the subway in that time, and I don't think any of them have ever said, "Man, I wish they'd give Cyborg his own movie!" No, it's more than likely that long-time comic readers see Black Panther and Luke Cage and in some ways, The Falcon, as the black superheroes that deserve their own movies or shows. Warner Bros. announcing a movie starring Cyborg is not going to push Marvel to move any faster on a Black Panther movie than they already have been. Trust me on this. Maybe a younger generation has embraced Cyborg from the Teen Titans cartoon that I don't know about, but it still seems like an odd choice. (The same can be said for Ms. Marvel who isn't nearly as well known as Wonder Woman among the general populace.)

I'm not even going to comment too much on the 2020 plan for a new Green Lantern movie, presumably a reboot with whichever poor actor whose agent doesn't remember how starring in the previous Green Lantern movie hurt Ryan Reynolds' career. If nine years is the statute of limitations on trying to revive a character on the big screen for new audiences after a bad movie, then we're eight years behind on a new Steel movie. (At this point, we don't even know if the Green Lantern in question is Hal Jordan or John Stewart, who would in fact appeal to an urban audience, probably more than Cyborg.)

ComingSoon.net|The Battle Cry: Is Warner Bros.' New DC Line-Up a Good Thing?

Now, as a German-born living in Germany never even having been in the U.S. before, I would not dare presume to know whether there was any truth to that, but it does sound plausible, in that Cyborg isn't anywhere near being an icon. DC, even in the New 52, has yet to try the character in a regular solo title, and that is far less risky financially than a movie. John Stewart, on the other hand, was the Green Lantern a whole generation grew up with on the JL cartoon, and even before and after that he's been a popular character not just with African-Americans, but with other demographics as well (including this white German fanboy). Cyborg works best as a team member (preferredly member of the Titans).

Let's face it, Cyborg being included in the movie line-up has more to do with Geoff Johns turning him into his Mary Sue than with the actual appeal of the character.
I agree with you Kai. Being an old Teen Titans fan myself, Cyborg is more of an assemble character.

If WB wanted to make a POC superhero movie with a large potential for big returns, they should make a Static Shock movie. He carried his own show for several seasons on WB back in the day and was an original creation at the time with no comic book tie in.
 
If WB wanted to make a POC superhero movie with a large potential for big returns, they should make a Static Shock movie. He carried his own show for several seasons on WB back in the day and was an original creation at the time with no comic book tie in.

A Static Shock movie would be a great idea. But in fact, Static was created for comics in 1993 before he was adapted to the screen in 2000. It's true that his comic had been out of print for three years when the show premiered, but there was a new comics miniseries published in 2001 to capitalize on the character's newfound success.
 
I'd be surprised if half of those actually get made.

If Batman v. Superman fails to approach the Nolan Bat-films' box office, that could spell doom for most on the list. In other words, if the two biggest DC characters--two--cannot generate global box office records of a lone character film, I seriously doubt a pile of B & (largely) C-listers are not going to go before the cameras at the volume projected.

...and before someone tries to mention Guardians, that was a lucky occurrence--and did not have the investment (read: hope) going into a team-up film featuring the most famous comic characters in history.
 
If Batman v. Superman fails to approach the Nolan Bat-films' box office, that could spell doom for most on the list. In other words, if the two biggest DC characters--two--cannot generate global box office records of a lone character film, I seriously doubt a pile of B & (largely) C-listers are not going to go before the cameras at the volume projected.
Very true. Ergo, it's up to all of us. If enough geeks nationwide publicly pledge to skip BvS in theaters, and hold private house-viewing parties with Redbox rentals a few months later instead, and make good on that promise, we may yet avert the many disasters DC intends to foist on us. We have the power! :p
 
I seriously doubt that's gonna happen. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Batman v Superman is such a monster hit that they decide to skip some of the standalones and just give a sequel to that.
 
Ezra Miller is 22, but by the time The Flash and the first Justice League movie comes out (2017) he'll be 25. By 2019, the year of the second Justice League movie, he'll be 27. Miller is young, but I'm sure he'll be there to contrast the older Ben Affleck (42), Henry Cavill (31) and Jason Momoa (35).

It is also worth noting Miller is the first openly LGBT actor to play a superhero. Cyborg will also be the first time an actor of color has played a superhero in a leading role since 2004's Blade: Trinity - although Michael B. Jordan will be co-starring in the Fantastic Four reboot slated for next year. It's the kind of diversity we haven't really seen in most Marvel movies recently.

I'm also really excited we're getting a Wonder Woman standalone film before the Justice League film. I was a bit worried it would feel rushed getting to JLA but now we'll have four movies - if it all pans out - before Justice League: Part One in November 2017. That also means WB needs to start really pushing forward with Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. I also believe it has been mentioned WB is concurrently developing more standalone Batman and Superman movies as well.

It's going to be an exciting next couple years for DC/WB movies.
 
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