Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread
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You know it's almost kind of unfair to sort of rank these episodes right now. I think this is going to be one of those things were you got to look at all the episodes after they air to really judge it all. I bet you in later years this stuff is going to play well in repeats with is knowing how it all ends and seeing the clues and seeing these episodes with added context.
Jason
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It's a dangerous concept for some studios, especially if it's untried source material. Slow burn shows run the risk of never really taking off on time to catch and build an audience. Sometimes you only have the pilot or maybe 1-2 additional episodes to build a core audience and if you fail that you can only hope for the best but it usually fails. Marvel has deeper pockets and patience and knowing them well enough at this point this show might even become an integral part in Phase 4 going onwards with the true rewards paying off way down the line.
Just remember how they absolutely bent every movie to the Infinity Stone Saga, every movie contributing small or big details until it all came together in the last two movies. Wandavision might do the same but for now it's just weird and i actually fast forwarded a couple of time as it became clear that Wanda has lost her marbles somewhat and is slowly realizing that something is off, don't need 2 full episodes to catch this.
We'll see how this develops, i will continue to watch but i hope this picks up soon.
I'm pretty sure this is going to be a core part of Phase 4, it's setting up whatever Scarlet Witch's role will be Multiverse of Madness, which then leads into whatever Dr. Strange's role will be in Homecoming 3. I believe Loki is also connected to MoM, which means there might also be some small connections to this too.
Honestly, the whole the whole thing could just be what we got in the first 2 episodes, and I'd be perfectly happy with it.
Honestly, the whole the whole thing could just be what we got in the first 2 episodes, and I'd be perfectly happy with it.
I just finished the first episode, and it is the biggest pile of shit. It wasn't even remotely funny, it was literally just a bad 50s sitcom outside of maybe the last 15 seconds. since I'm not 70 years-old, the last thing I want to watch is a sitcom from the 50s not called I Love Lucy. If they were trying to make the worst possible sitcom episode that they could in modern times, they succeeded. It is a completely worthless 20 minutes of television, and the worst 20 minutes of anything in an official MCU production. It is completely without any value, and apparently only exists because the people in charge are ancient and so actually have Nostalgia for this crap. I was born in 1990, I couldn't give less of a shit about this kind of sitcom.
maybe if they've actually had a twist to it, tried to subvert things, it could have been funny or entertaining. As it is, episode one is literally completely skippable and you lose nothing from it. Now on to episode, which based off of non-spoiler reviews is probably going to be just as shity. it's looking like we have to wait until episode 4-5 for the actual plot to start, which is infuriating. Hopefully the people behind this show don't get to make anything more in the MCU, and hopefully Kevin feige oesn't OK somedthing like this again. this is the first MCU production that is strictly for Boomers, based off the first episode.
maybe if they've actually had a twist to it, tried to subvert things, it could have been funny or entertaining. As it is, episode one is literally completely skippable and you lose nothing from it. Now on to episode, which based off of non-spoiler reviews is probably going to be just as shity. it's looking like we have to wait until episode 4-5 for the actual plot to start, which is infuriating. Hopefully the people behind this show don't get to make anything more in the MCU, and hopefully Kevin feige oesn't OK somedthing like this again. this is the first MCU production that is strictly for Boomers, based off the first episode.
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how dare someone discuss wandavision in the wandavision thread. What's next, someone might have an opinion you don't share. The horror.
^ I'm 57. I've never seen an episode of I Love Lucy. I don't think I've ever seen more than one or two episodes of I Dream Of Jeanie and Bewitched.
I quite enjoyed it. Jr.'s 23 and watched it with me. He liked it more than I did. Bear in mind I'm still enthusiastic about the MCU but he was starting to feel it had run it's course.
The sitcoms through the ages thing is novel and inventive. It speaks well for creativity outside the norm going forward. You don't need familiarity with the shows being pastiched, and different can be great - i.e. Legion.
I quite enjoyed it. Jr.'s 23 and watched it with me. He liked it more than I did. Bear in mind I'm still enthusiastic about the MCU but he was starting to feel it had run it's course.
The sitcoms through the ages thing is novel and inventive. It speaks well for creativity outside the norm going forward. You don't need familiarity with the shows being pastiched, and different can be great - i.e. Legion.
Oh, good, for a moment there I was afraid that this would be the thing that wasn't absolute "utter shit", or completely pointless, or so terrible that it's the worst thing ever. I honestly don't know what I'd do in that event. Nice to know that the world keeps spinning on, even in 2021.
Also, that's usually a sign that I'll enjoy it just fine.
Also, that's usually a sign that I'll enjoy it just fine.
Legion was the worst technically comic book based show ever created. It was even more worthless than this show, at least with this show I can tell you what happened in an episode even if it was boring and badly written. Legion was written by people seemingly high on hardcore illegal substances, and incoherent to anyone who wasn't taking them. It's like if Grant Morrison was given a TV show and no oversight, and got to film it in a country where really dangerous drugs were legal.
This show is a poorly written, poorly thought-out pile of shit, but at least I can understand what is going on, and it's actors are actually good.
That said, I'm sure more people hate 50s sitcoms nowadays than like them, and this makes me wish Marvel wasn't too big to fail so that this shity show would actually hurt them, but it won't. Thankfully the other upcoming shows seem like they're made by competent people, at least until we get to the pile of crap that will be She-Hulk, Miss Marvel, and moon night
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One of these days I should start a list of all the shows and movies that are the worst shows and movies ever.
It’s starting to become hard to track.
It’s starting to become hard to track.
Ok, I've now watched the first two episodes. This show is weird. Brilliant. But weird.
Very much a slow burn on any kind of overarching plot, thought it's clearly there. But the sitcom elements are so well crafted and lovingly done. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the shows they are homaging, outside of a few episodes of I Love Lucy from reruns when I was a kid (in the 80's, for reference), but it's clear how much attention has been put into recreating the feel of them. And Olsen and Bettany are just magnificent. They both look like they're having a blast. "Drunk" Vision may be the funniest thing I've yet seen in the MCU.
I absolutely loved the 60's style effects for their powers. There is a sense of almost joy in the performances here, and it is equal parts adorable and heartbreaking to watch Wanda and Vision in the suburban home setting. I am not looking forward to the moment when Wanda has to face reality, that's going to tear my heart out.
I think I'm in for the long haul. It's fun, and that's all I could hope for.
Very much a slow burn on any kind of overarching plot, thought it's clearly there. But the sitcom elements are so well crafted and lovingly done. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the shows they are homaging, outside of a few episodes of I Love Lucy from reruns when I was a kid (in the 80's, for reference), but it's clear how much attention has been put into recreating the feel of them. And Olsen and Bettany are just magnificent. They both look like they're having a blast. "Drunk" Vision may be the funniest thing I've yet seen in the MCU.
I absolutely loved the 60's style effects for their powers. There is a sense of almost joy in the performances here, and it is equal parts adorable and heartbreaking to watch Wanda and Vision in the suburban home setting. I am not looking forward to the moment when Wanda has to face reality, that's going to tear my heart out.
I think I'm in for the long haul. It's fun, and that's all I could hope for.
Their enthusiasm is infectious and it's a big part of why I've connected so well with the show so far.
That was a lot of fun! I particularly enjoyed the animation of his insides. That was a nice touch.
I liked it. A fairly faithful parody of the classic sitcoms with little twists and digs at the cliches they were riddled with. It has an interesting dark undercurrent in scenes like when Vision's boss was choking and his wife had such a strange, almost robotic reaction to it, it was like she was under a compulsion and terrified being trapped like that.
It is starting off different. Guessing that Wanda is being subjected to a manufactured environment, hence all the memory gaps and vagueness of what Vision actually does at work.
Given there are only 9 episodes total that they spent $225 million total, I'm hoping later episodes ate up more of the budget.
Given there are only 9 episodes total that they spent $225 million total, I'm hoping later episodes ate up more of the budget.
So far I'm a tiny bit bored if I'm honest. 99% classic sitcom pastiche isn't really my thing, but I'm in for the rest regardless as I watch all MCU stuff and they are obviously heading somewhere. I'm just not convinced yet that two solid episodes of sitcom material is warranted. Will have to wait and see if I revise my stance. 
He did contribute to the thread though. Rather than just mocking the opinion of another poster.
I liked both episodes a lot. When exactly does this take place in the MCU continuity, though? I thought Vision was destroyed around eight movies ago or something. (There's so much MCU now that a lot of it is a blur)
I love retro-tinged sci-fi. If the sitcom setting was in the modern day, I wouldn't have any interest in this at all.
Kor
I love retro-tinged sci-fi. If the sitcom setting was in the modern day, I wouldn't have any interest in this at all.
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Just finished both episodes. I was a little bored with that. Olson and Bettany were good but I was expecting a little more wit for an MCU property. Are they in their own version of The Truman Show?
I found the first two episodes a tad so so, and, being forthright, I suspect that's in part because I have zero investment in these characters (having largely given up superhero stuff a while back because most of it just doesn't resonate with me), and if you come into this not as a Marvel fan the show doesn't throw you a bone...and if you aren't steeped in the shows they're mimicking, there's no bone for you, either.
So what the show hands me at first are unfamiliar people in thus far largely toothless homages that are mostly as unfunny as the vintage sitcoms they're mimicking (and less so in the case of the The Dick Van Dyke Show-esque opener), with scripts that drag a bit. "Ha ha there's a laugh track to something not really funny" wears out its welcome pretty fast.
So far it plays a lot like Pleasantville did a "you got your peanut butter in my chocolate" with the MCU, which so far feels a little too self-consciously meta.
If there's some subtext here using these shows to comment on a larger theme I'm missing it. But I'll at least check out episode 3 to see if there's any revelations what will engage me more.
So what the show hands me at first are unfamiliar people in thus far largely toothless homages that are mostly as unfunny as the vintage sitcoms they're mimicking (and less so in the case of the The Dick Van Dyke Show-esque opener), with scripts that drag a bit. "Ha ha there's a laugh track to something not really funny" wears out its welcome pretty fast.
So far it plays a lot like Pleasantville did a "you got your peanut butter in my chocolate" with the MCU, which so far feels a little too self-consciously meta.
If there's some subtext here using these shows to comment on a larger theme I'm missing it. But I'll at least check out episode 3 to see if there's any revelations what will engage me more.
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