Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

[theenglish]

No, they are speaking English.
As long as they are, asking the question of where their Sokovian accents went is valid.
If they speak Sokovian with an English accent at some point, your question will be right.

That depends if they learned English or if they grew up speaking it. For example, many people treat an Indian accent, Caribbean accents, or accents from African countries as if they are illegitimate accents when the people have grown up as native English speakers. We know that Wanda speaks Sokovian but if she grew up speaking English then her accent is as legitimate as a British or American accent.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They both sounded like Dracula in Age of Ultron.

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At some point, Wanda decided to pass for American.

(In episode one Wanda was doing whatever accent Elizabeth Montgomery had on Bewitched, who was also probably eastern European too, given that she is immortal and older than America.)

Which probably takes a small amount of constant effort.

Although considering that she spends more time with Vision than anyone else, an English accent like his, seems more organic.

 

[theenglish]

I actually thought that too. If you are a second language speaker you adopt naturally the accent of the culture or people you are surrounded by. Wanda should have adopted a more British or even transatlantic sounding accent than an American one. Unless she just immersed herself for years in American sitcoms, of course.

 

[Relayer1]

So, do we have any real world evidence that Vision, Pietro and the kids make it out of Wanda's reality warp into the MCU afterwards ?

Any casting leaks for future movies, unguarded comments etc. ?

 

[theenglish]

There are plans for Young Avengers.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

So, do we have any real world evidence that Vision, Pietro and the kids make it out of Wanda's reality warp into the MCU afterwards ?

Any casting leaks for future movies, unguarded comments etc. ?

Other casting news makes it pretty obvious that some version of Young Avengers is going to happen eventually. Given the kids' YA history in the comics it seems highly unlikely that they don't make it out of Westview. But Vision and Pietro are entirely up in the air.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Not so... Vision's corpse played a part in their origin story, and then was added to the firmware of Iron Lad.

Later still, there's a Teen-Vision, for quite some time until he ages out, to the status quo.

 

[Nightowl1701]

With Ms. Marvel and Ironheart on the way, I’d be surprised if Viv Vision doesn’t eventually show up too. ‘Dad’ will be needed in some capacity for that to happen.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Since Wanda had said in a previous episode that she can't bring back the dead, yet seemingly pulled a version of Pietro from another universe into hers and imbued him with some of the memories of her dead brother; is it possible that we're looking at a Vision that is not from this universe but from one that Wanda has done something similar to?

 

[Orphalesion]

I kinda wonder whether this version of Pietro wasn't created from one of the residents of the town Wanda took over. Like she subconsciously took some guy, crafted Pietro's memories and powers onto him and gave him that stereotypical "wacky sitcom relative" persona.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

With Ms. Marvel and Ironheart on the way, I’d be surprised if Viv Vision doesn’t eventually show up too. ‘Dad’ will be needed in some capacity for that to happen.

I don't know about that, really. The Champions and the Young Avengers are way too similar for the MCU to do both of them, so I expect there to be 1 almagamated team under the Young Avengers brand name (for marketing purposes). That being the case, it's entirely possible some members of both teams may simply not make the cut in order to keep the number of characters manageable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Champions to begin with, were a mandated, Stark approved, Avengers Squad.

The Young Avengers were freelance, sent into battle by a quasivillain, on a selfish, mission.

The Kang actor is black, so iron Lad is black, but there will be no familial link to Patriot? Iron Lad is already related to Dr Doom and Reed Richards.

Small universe syndrome.

That has to worrying for Iron Lad.

His ancestors are missing from thetimeline.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

The Champions to begin with, were a mandated, Stark approved, Avengers Squad.

No they weren't.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No they weren't.

OKies.

The core members were already an Avengers squad that ejaculated out of that, after Civil War II rattled them, and rebranded as the Champions, divorcing their ties to the Avengers.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

OKies.

The core members were already an Avengers squad that ejaculated out of that, after Civil War II rattled them, and rebranded as the Champions, divorcing their ties to the Avengers.

Some of them were Avengers. The idea that they were a special squad is never mentioned in the Champions and on the page they read as just regular Avengers team-members, though low down the totem pole. But I didn't read the Avengers stuff, so maybe it's true. But they quit the Avengers first - separately - over various different incidents. Then after that they got together to think about maybe having a team of their own which they immediately brought multiple other people onto who weren't in the Avengers with them. That formed the core group which was only partly made up of former Avengers.

 

[Nightowl1701]

One thing I'm pretty sure of: Going through/being in the Hex did not give Monica her as-yet unmanifested Photon powers (which means nobody else in town, including Darcy, will get powers themselves). She already had them and knows she has them, and deliberately chose not to correct Darcy when she brought up the blood work. Her utter lack of self-concern/quick deflection every time her health has been brought up points to it. She's saving the reveal for when it really counts - if not in the series finale, then the next time Carol Danvers comes to Earth.

Considering one of the writers (Megan McDonnell) is also writing Captain Marvel 2, wanna take bets that how Monica really got her powers is also why her mother Maria died of cancer? And why she's now clearly holding a grudge against Carol?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Some of them were Avengers. The idea that they were a special squad is never mentioned in the Champions and on the page they read as just regular Avengers team-members, though low down the totem pole. But I didn't read the Avengers stuff, so maybe it's true. But they quit the Avengers first - separately - over various different incidents. Then after that they got together to think about maybe having a team of their own which they immediately brought multiple other people onto who weren't in the Avengers with them. That formed the core group which was only partly made up of former Avengers.

Same author, same publication schedule.

It's the same book.

 

[Relayer1]

I'd rather have Champions than Young Avengers.

And I don't want Iron Lad at all...

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Same author, same artist, same publication schedule.

It's the same book.

That statement doesn't seem to have any relationship at all to what I said.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That statement doesn't seem to have any relationship at all to what I said.

If it's the same book, then all the hoops you're talking about for jumping through to show the connection and overlap between the two teams, is just stuff that is happening in the same book.

All-New All-Different Avengers is Champions Vol 1.